Kimura Arm Position

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  1. sha

    sha Geekjitsu Black Belt

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    I was watching Tony Cecchine's tape, and he insists that when applying a kimura from the guard, it's better to keep your oponent's arm away from his own body (so his arm would make about a 90
     
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    Foolkiller You have meddled with the primal forces of nature!

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    Bring his wrist towards his shoulder. The closer the wrist to the shoulder, the smaller the range of motion which means less effort spent cranking the hold. Fuck Tony Cecchine.
     
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    sha Geekjitsu Black Belt

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    thanks for the quick answer.

    I'll try doing it like that. .
     
  4. Ybot

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    Keep his upper arm away from his body, and his elbow bent at least 90 degrees. I say 90 from the guard because it make it less likely that he will grab anything to prevent the lock. Once the wrist clears his back, sure bend it more, whatever, but I never have a problem finishing with the right angle. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.
     
  5. phenomfan1529

    phenomfan1529 Brown Belt

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    Agreed.
    Fuck Tony Cecchine, lol
     
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    VegasFighter** Brown Belt

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    lol. the above post about pulling the wrist to the shoulder is key. also pull his elbow down as far as you can while making sure he's still flat.. after that, angles shouldnt matter.
     
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    His upper arm should be 90degrees to his body and his elbo pinned to your sternum, and dont forget to hip out.
     
  8. Balto

    Balto Silver Belt

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    In judo, the kimura is usually done with the arm away from the body (90 degrees or greater). This is so that it attacks the elbow rather than the shoulder. Some people claim this is more effective.

    I find it more effective to bring the wrist to the shoulder though (30 degrees or smaller). That attacks the shoulder more.

    I've done it both ways and had both ways done to me. My preference is to bend the arm a lot, but it isn't really wrong to do it with the arm straighter either.
     
  9. Kyle Johnson

    Kyle Johnson Amateur Fighter

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    according to Carlson Gracie Sr it is key to keep the arm as close to the body as posible while bringing the hand to the shoulder, the close to 90% or over the easyer it is to straiten the arm. Also it hurts much less when its at 90% or greater..so fuck Tony for the fourth time and get some better training tapes or a real instructor
     
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    Gsoares2*** Banned Banned

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    a little more then 90 is fine to.... I still get it fine when it is past there.
     
  11. StevieSparkZ

    StevieSparkZ Green Belt

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    The only time I can imagine it would be best to keep the arm further (straight) from his body is if ur side mounting him and hes completely flattened out, i tapped someone out like this once long ago, havent in a while tho
     
  12. Villain

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    Rorian and Royce's tapes teach to keep the arm at 90
     
  13. Foolkiller

    Foolkiller You have meddled with the primal forces of nature!

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    I've been taught to use the monkey grip (no thumbs) because it's harder to pull your hand out of and if they do pull out of the grip you're not risking bending back and breaking your thumb.
     

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