Khabib is the best LW ever?

[Grapplefest]

Yes he's the greatest LW of all time, as in he'd beat. any other LW ever just like Jones would beat any other LHW ever. In terms of resume though, I think a win over Tony would make him have the best LW resume ever without question.

 

[Doctor Lenovo]

Gotta rack those defences up first. Penn, Edgar and Bendo all have 3, Khabib has 1

Title defense is not a strong criterion. Why? Fighters get title shots at different times. For example, BJ Penn got a title shot after 3 fights in the UFC. Frankie Edgar had a respectable run to the title, but he has too many losses in the UFC at 6. Benson Henderson got his title shot after 2 fights in the UFC, and again, too many losses in the UFC at 3.

If Khabib had received a title shot after 3 fights in the UFC, then he would have been at 7 title defenses already. In comparison, if Tony Ferguson was given a title shot after 3 fights in the UFC, then he would have failed to win the title against Michael Johnson.

Khabib has a strong case for best UFC LW ever, and even best MMA fighter ever. For the people who claim Fedor is the GOAT for being "10 years undefeated," Khabib has surpassed that, and he did it in the best organization in the most talent deep division.

Conclusion, title defenses are a useless criteria to judge UFC greatness, because fighters don't get to fight for the title after a standardized amount of fights. Consecutive wins is a better criterion.

 

[2EZ]

Khabib will hilariously beat prime BJ into the fucking canvas, same with tiny edger.
LW GOAT will be determined between Khabib and Tony.
Those two are far superior to any LW that ever competed

 

[Khabib Fan]

Trolls will troll, but Khabib is still the best.

 

[Dark Individual]

Title defense is not a strong criterion. Why? Fighters get title shots at different times. For example, BJ Penn got a title shot after 3 fights in the UFC. Frankie Edgar had a respectable run to the title, but he has too many losses in the UFC at 6. Benson Henderson got his title shot after 2 fights in the UFC, and again, too many losses in the UFC at 3.

If Khabib had received a title shot after 3 fights in the UFC, then he would have been at 7 title defenses already. In comparison, if Tony Ferguson was given a title shot after 3 fights in the UFC, then he would have failed to win the title against Michael Johnson.

Khabib has a strong case for best UFC LW ever, and even best MMA fighter ever. For the people who claim Fedor is the GOAT for being "10 years undefeated," Khabib has surpassed that, and he did it in the best organization in the most talent deep division.

Conclusion, title defenses are a useless criteria to judge UFC greatness, because fighters don't get to fight for the title after a standardized amount of fights. Consecutive wins is a better criterion.

Exactly this. It is downright retarded to bring up title defenses when the consensus GOAT Fedor has been considered GOAT without anybody ever bringing up title defenses. Somehow people have made it an official criteria that title defenses are the most important aspect if you are in UFC. Theres plethora of fighters that have that. Tell me fighters that are 10 years undefeated and you'll keep looking. Khabib is reaching GOAT status fast and anybody who can't see that is a hater, plain and simple.

 

[Maaj19]

Title defense is not a strong criterion. Why? Fighters get title shots at different times. For example, BJ Penn got a title shot after 3 fights in the UFC. Frankie Edgar had a respectable run to the title, but he has too many losses in the UFC at 6. Benson Henderson got his title shot after 2 fights in the UFC, and again, too many losses in the UFC at 3.

If Khabib had received a title shot after 3 fights in the UFC, then he would have been at 7 title defenses already. In comparison, if Tony Ferguson was given a title shot after 3 fights in the UFC, then he would have failed to win the title against Michael Johnson.

Khabib has a strong case for best UFC LW ever, and even best MMA fighter ever. For the people who claim Fedor is the GOAT for being "10 years undefeated," Khabib has surpassed that, and he did it in the best organization in the most talent deep division.

Conclusion, title defenses are a useless criteria to judge UFC greatness, because fighters don't get to fight for the title after a standardized amount of fights. Consecutive wins is a better criterion.

Good point tbh. Using your take tho, Khabib still would be some ways from being GOAT overall because irrespective of his winning streak most of his competition has been pretty sub standard, even more so than Fedor

 

[Clippy]

I said that. Who is the best LW of all time Clip?

Kahbobs!!!!

 

[Arqueto]

He went 6-1-1 at 155 from 2001-2004 and was universally considered the best after his destruction of Gomi. He then went to welterweight and up and jacked his record overall, but then came back to 155 in 2007 and went 5-0 before running into Edgar in 2010.

Going into his first fight with Edgar his record at 155 was 11-1-1 and was still universally considered the best 155er of his time, and most considered him the best ever at 155. I still think that run hasn't been matched.

His record outside of 155 is 5-11-1, but even with the Edgar losses his 155 record is still a solid 11-3-1.

Solid argument and I think records do mean something, but I just can't see prime BJ beating Khabib and that is why I think Khabib is better. I think if he goes on and racks up another 3 title defenses and retires undefeated then he is the GOAT LW hands down.

You made good points though.

 

[Rittsy]

You Could make that claim. But if he is it's not by much. Needs to get some more top wins to solidify.

 

[dogukan]

no doubt

if he confirms a match against the god, I may think about it

 

[KarateStylist]

Khabib has a strong case for it. Despite haters protests to it.

He certainly does. For one, MMA worships hard sparring & that whole bear thing is just over the top.

 

[KarateStylist]

You Could make that claim. But if he is it's not by much. Needs to get some more top wins to solidify.

Yep, record (Khabib's) muddied by match making along with dearth of talent. Conor "Obi-Wan Kenob" McGregor throughly intimidated, totally.

 

[LoadedZeus]

Winner of Tony vs Khabib surpasses BJ Penn.
If that fight doesn't happen we're fucked.

Edit: Also title defenses still matter greatly, as others noted.

Title defenses dont matter for shit anymore in divisions lile 155. When you have guys like tony and khabib beating every top guy left and right, and then have guys like conor come by and get the title shot immediately but never defend, who gives a fuck about defenses? 10 years ago was a different era, Tony and Khabib are the greatest lightweights of all time