Kevin Lee Trains w/ Meek

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And Lee is also looking for a new coach with the late Robert Follis death and says he isn't fighting to July 2018
 
Really excited to find out if Emil is a real deal or if Palhares was a fluke and Mein was just unmotivated.

War meek
 
Is it me or does Meek's left leg (his left) looks bigger than his right leg?
 
You know you're struggling when tony fergsuon butchers you in a battle of words
 
Karo Karo said:
It's close, but Khabib is rarely successful on his first takedown attempt. He's a great chain-wrestler so he gets guys down eventually, but I don't think even Khabib would've been able to take Tony Ferguson down easily on his first attempt and mount him within 2 minutes. (Which is what Kevin Lee did before the staph fucked him)

Covington deserves mention here too, as unlikeable as he is.
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Karo Karo said:
Hey man, don't laugh.


You're hurting my feelings....

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At least explain what you disagree with specifically

I'm from Australia too btw
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Boarding a flight to new zealand if i have time in a bit i will
 
Karo Karo said:
It's close, but Khabib is rarely successful on his first takedown attempt. He's a great chain-wrestler so he gets guys down eventually, but I don't think even Khabib would've been able to take Tony Ferguson down easily on his first attempt and mount him within 2 minutes. (Which is what Kevin Lee did before the staph fucked him)

Covington deserves mention here too, as unlikeable as he is. He's as good at dictating where the fight takes place amongst active 155/170 lbers.
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Lee is a really good grappler. Really oportunistic and strong. I think he has better subs than Khabib but the eagle has way more violent ground and pound.

Plus staph or not his cardio sucks.
 
Karo Karo said:
Staph-less Kevin Lee is the best grappler at 155/170, so it's a good move to train with him.
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It is close, but Khabib is a step above. Makhachev is pretty solid too. Lee is good, but the only fighter that knew how to wrestle and grapple was Ferguson - who gave him big problems.
 
ArtemV said:
It is close, but Khabib is a step above. Makhachev is pretty solid too. Lee is good, but the only fighter that knew how to wrestle and grapple was Ferguson - who gave him big problems.
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And tapped him
 
Kevin Lee looks like a large welter there
 
Probably the best he can do to get ready for Usman
 
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Karo Karo said:
Maia's takedowns and G&P are nowhere near as good as Lee's.

Woodley? Huh? He's got great TDD but we've never seen anything from him in the form of submissions

Look up, I've already addressed the Khabib argument.
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What submissions do you see from Lee other than chokes? He's a great wrestler but as an overall grappler he's not the best, if he was why was he tapped by Tony? A guy like Maia would play with Lee in a grappling contest
 
Karo Karo said:
lol what submissions from Maia have you seen recently other than chokes?

Lee was gassed from the staph infection, healthy Lee beats Tony 8/10 times at least.

I think you'd be surprised, I think Lee holds his own with anyone at 155/170 in a pure jiu-jitsu match. He's definitely a better wrestler than Maia, that's not even up for debate. In a real fight, he would stuff all of Maia's takedowns and outstrike him easily.

Michael Chiesa is a really high level grappler himself, and Lee toyed with him on the ground.
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So you’re saying Kevin Lee is the best grappler, but concede that he isn’t that dangerous on the floor?

So if he’s not the best at shelling out damage from the top position, or submitting from the top or bottom, then what is he, the best at controlling where he isn’t winning a fight from?
 
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