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Basically, humans learn violence by modelling. That's why we have kata and such. That's why prizefighting/combat sports are spectator sports. That's why in a war, a leader must sometimes lead the charge himself (at the same time the old duty of the sergeant: killing deserters). We model what we see working (deserting a seemingly losing fight makes one survive, that's why when one leaves others follow).
And that's the problem of TMAs. They model certain persons who shun CONTROLLED violence while claiming that they can survive and triumph in UNCONTROLLED violence but don't participate in it or participate by using other methods (e.g. using firearms while claiming that his H2H is the real deal). That's like saying that one is able to win F1 races but doesn't drive around the city (and has no observable record of doing so).
All these stuff about virtues in MA lies on a foundation of VIOLENCE. In basic existence, to be able to eat you have to be violent (aka kill your own food). To survive and avoid getting eaten, you have to be violent (making your predators into food). Virtues will be nothing if one gets eaten. These people with no verifiable re cord in violence spouting virtues in MA while shunning prizefighting are scammers. Why? What is a better proof of effective methods of violence (which is basically the primary point of martial arts) than previous records of these methods working in front of witnesses?
And please tell: is UNCONTROLLED violence where weapons and reinforcements can pop out of nowhere easier than CONTROLLED violence where there is an assured absence of handheld weapons, reinforcements, ground obstacles, etc. and also assures one's survival in case of surrender? Then why do these jokers shun CONTROLLED VIOLENCE? And claim they are effective in UNCONTROLLED violence?
These shitfaces are just taking people on a ride. They hide behind platitudes of martial virtues and grandiose titles in a relatively peaceful society. But when violence flares up, these shitfaces will be the first ones to fuck up, and their students will be left holding the bag. That's why it's a very good idea to test one's shit before shit happens, but these shitfaces frown on that cuz that will expose the lie they perpetuate...
You're responding to my posts like I'm saying something opposite of that, but I actually agree with everything you're saying here, so you're preaching to the choir