Opinion Kamala tells illegal immigrants DO NOT COME. Is this racist?

[goldennirvana]

Yeah such an incentive, maybe when you're dead and we've worked the life out of you, you might get a chance to start becoming a documented immigrant.

I think the companies hiring them off the books are a much larger incentive and no immigration policy is going to change that, unless we actually start punishing the employers for it.

People like you would call it racist if the government started punishing employers.

 

[SBJJ]

"You'll hypothetically do something therefore ..." is a dumb argument. And we're not even talking about the administration here. Just about how people are lying about Democrats supporting open borders and about how various positions contradict each other.

You throw your back out yet. Twisting one's self into a pretzel can do that

 

[SBJJ]

So Biden literally has to say "I want open borders!". Thats seriously your argument based on what they said? Are you a child?

Yes.

A DNC ManChild

 

[Rational Poster]

People like you would call it racist if the government started punishing employers.

No, I've long advocated for going after the source of the problem, and not put a band aide on it.

Punish employers, foreign aide to our neighbors that need it, streamline the legal immigration process so illegal immigration isn't as tempting or necessary.

 

[Whippy McGee]

This is a Democrat / Joe Biden created problem. These are the actions the Left too and the result is a humanitarian disaster at our Southern Border:

(1) End Border Wall Construction - Link: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/30/biden-terminates-border-wall-construction-485123
(2) Start "Catch and Release" - Link: https://news.yahoo.com/biden-admin-relaunches-catch-release-181832444.html
(3) End vetting asylum speakers in Mexico - Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...-trump-s-remain-mexico-asylum-policy-n1269262
(4) Trash ICE - Link: https://www.npr.org/2021/02/18/9690...limit-who-immigration-agents-target-for-arres
(5) Embrace Sanctuary Cities - Link: https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/politics/biden-doj-supreme-court-dismiss-sanctuary-cities/index.html

Those sources are: Politico, Yahoo News, NBC News, NPR, and CNN.

 

[Whippy McGee]

My favorite part of the Kamala Harris / Lester Holt interview was when she just straight up lied repeatedly and he exposed her.



Start at the 3:57 mark to cut the chase.

Harris: We've been to the border, we've been to the border, we've been to the border

Holt: You have not been to the border.

Harris: I haven't been to Europe either.

Last I checked...

(1) We don't have a border with Europe
(2) Thousands and thousands of Europeans are not illegally coming to the U.S.A.

It's not just that she is a liar, but she's also too stupid to come up with some sort of answer that makes any sense. We now have the leaders of Guatemala and Mexico blaming Joe Biden for the humanitarian disaster on the U.S. Southern Border.

 

[Yehudim]

So the Dems don't want mass illegal immigration and are trying to cure the root causes of it.

Good to know

I'm going to need leading minds on the left to explain to me if these are dogwhistles or not.

 

[Yehudim]

It’s funny seeing him wrote all that crap when he and his side were clearly espousing a very different platform a year ago. What a Millhouse

We're OK with the end result being the same as long as you aren't rude about it.

Cages and border fences, it's just sensible now!

The Joe Biden presidency has me feeling like such a Trumpet because while I approve of it minus symbolic tranny shit, I can't resist the temptation to point out that he is a continuation of Trump in many ways, given the vitriol Trump received for common-sense policy just because he is detestable as a person.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I thought the democrats were intentionally importing from the 3rd world to get more voters? Which is it?

Don't know. That's why I'm asking questions. You don't seem to have any answers. You can't even say if you're for border control or why Harris is discouraging illegal immigration.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Was this supposed to make sense?

He's surely imagining claims not made.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

I'm going to need leading minds on the left to explain to me if these are dogwhistles or not.

Is this still going on?



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/us/sarah-fabian-migrant-lawyer-doj.html

"Ms. Fabian appeared before the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, in San Francisco, in a case about how the federal government is legally obligated to treat migrant children who are in custody. At the hearing, Ms. Fabian tried to parse the meaning of “safe and sanitary” conditions, the standard established by a settlement agreement that determines the government’s handling of migrant children who are being held in detention.

“It’s within everybody’s common understanding that if you don’t have a toothbrush, if you don’t have soap, if you don’t have a blanket, that’s not ‘safe and sanitary,’” said Judge A. Wallace Tashima of the Ninth Circuit, a former Marine who was imprisoned as a child in a Japanese-American internment camp in Arizona during World War II. “Wouldn’t everybody agree to that? Do you agree with that?”

“Well, I think it’s — I think those are — there’s fair reason to find that those things may be part of ‘safe and sanitary,’” Ms. Fabian replied.

“Not ‘may be,’” Judge Tashima said. “‘Are’ a part. Why do you say, ‘may be’? You mean there’s circumstances when a person doesn’t need to have a toothbrush, toothpaste and soap for days?”

“Well, I think, in C.B.P. custody, it’s frequently intended to be much shorter term,” Ms. Fabian replied, referring to the Customs and Border Protection agency. “So it may be that for a shorter-term stay in C.B.P. custody that some of those things may not be required.”

An edited, four-minute video of Ms. Fabian’s exchange with the judges posted by NowThis News on Twitter has been viewed more than 20 million times.

Ms. Fabian stopped short of directly stating that the government did not have to provide toothbrushes, soap and beds to migrant children. But her attempts to dance around the subject, and her apparent inability to clarify for the judges just what she was arguing, helped turn Ms. Fabian into the public face of the Trump administration’s treatment of migrant children at the border.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

So Biden literally has to say "I want open borders!". Thats seriously your argument based on what they said? Are you a child?

That seems to be the case. The standard seems to be much lower when it comes to accusing the other side of being motivated by racism. Last I knew no mainstream Republicans have come out and said they want a secure border because they're white supremacists.

 

[jefferz]

How about visiting the border first?

God... She's an idiot. Well done Joe, good thing she ticked the boxes you "Required" for a VP.

What about the requirements of being qualified and not a complete laughing bonehead

This is what happens when you don’t have a narcissistic leader. When she said we, she might the government.
But hey, keep up that fake outrage.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

This is what happens when you don’t have a narcissistic leader. When she said we, she might the government.
But hey, keep up that fake outrage.

Maybe. But then the comment about her not personally having been to Europe is nonsensical.

 

[jefferz]

Maybe. But then the comment about her not personally having been to Europe is nonsensical.

Ask stupid questions, you get stupid answers.

 

[uppercutbus]

This is a Democrat / Joe Biden created problem. These are the actions the Left too and the result is a humanitarian disaster at our Southern Border:

(1) End Border Wall Construction - Link: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/30/biden-terminates-border-wall-construction-485123
(2) Start "Catch and Release" - Link: https://news.yahoo.com/biden-admin-relaunches-catch-release-181832444.html
(3) End vetting asylum speakers in Mexico - Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...-trump-s-remain-mexico-asylum-policy-n1269262
(4) Trash ICE - Link: https://www.npr.org/2021/02/18/9690...limit-who-immigration-agents-target-for-arres
(5) Embrace Sanctuary Cities - Link: https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/politics/biden-doj-supreme-court-dismiss-sanctuary-cities/index.html

Those sources are: Politico, Yahoo News, NBC News, NPR, and CNN.

There's more, much more, like driver's licenses to illegals, free college education, how they complained about Trump being against the incoming caravans. . . And to think people gaslight in this thread how Democrats don't fig-leaf illegals, were always for strong borders etc. Even the former Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Acting Secretary Chad Wolf pointed the finger directly at Biden administration.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Ask stupid questions, you get stupid answers.

It wasn't in direct response to a question.

 

[Whippy McGee]

There's more, much more, like driver's licenses to illegals, free college education, how they complained about Trump being against the incoming caravans. . . And to think people gaslight in this thread how Democrats don't fig-leaf illegals, were always for strong borders etc. Even the former Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Acting Secretary Chad Wolf pointed the finger directly at Biden administration.

^^^ 100%

I gave a list of facts with verifiable links and they run like the cowards they truly are.

Here's the list again Leftists... now eat your crow and move on.

This is a Democrat / Joe Biden created problem. These are the actions the Left took and the result is a humanitarian disaster at our Southern Border:

(1) End Border Wall Construction - Link: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/30/biden-terminates-border-wall-construction-485123
(2) Start "Catch and Release" - Link: https://news.yahoo.com/biden-admin-relaunches-catch-release-181832444.html
(3) End vetting asylum speakers in Mexico - Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...-trump-s-remain-mexico-asylum-policy-n1269262
(4) Trash ICE - Link: https://www.npr.org/2021/02/18/9690...limit-who-immigration-agents-target-for-arres
(5) Embrace Sanctuary Cities - Link: https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/politics/biden-doj-supreme-court-dismiss-sanctuary-cities/index.html

Those sources are: Politico, Yahoo News, NBC News, NPR, and CNN.

 

[Jack V Savage]

It's easy to pretend you are right Jack because you like to move the goal posts wherever you want them. Yeah I said the left in general and then you relegated sources to the most mainstream political figures. Well duh that isnt what I said so now you are making your own argument.

If by "the left," you just mean some random people on Twitter, do you think it's honest to say "the left thinks"? And from the start, the goalposts were the same. You said that "the left" thinks that enforcing borders is racist, and I said if that were true, you could provide evidence of it, which you never did.

On top of that you made the dumbest justifications for why calling the border wall racist doesn't count. You cry for me to link you sources but you want you already have excuses for why they dont count. You claim they didnt advocate for open borders and when I link evidence you barely responded without even a real argument from what I linked. That shows your character.

The border wall is one (dumb) proposed way to enforce borders. You said that "the left" thinks that enforcing borders is racist.

 

[Jack V Savage]

So Biden literally has to say "I want open borders!". Thats seriously your argument based on what they said? Are you a child?

Hmm. On at least three occasions in this thread, I said it doesn't have to be the exact words. Just show some major figure on the left saying that they support open borders or that all enforcement of borders is racist. You can't do either of those because you were just making up those claims, right?