Kaepernick: Admoration, hatred, why is this a story? Merge Thread

[Deleted member 196663]

The fact that he believes that the US is oppressive, but still sucks at the very same teat for the tune of millions per year sort of undermines his alleged concern. The fact that he is proof that ethnicity is not a deterrent to success is just the cherry on top.

Him earning a lot of money doesn't undermine his concern. You can think he is being disingenuous, but you don't need to be directly impacted by something to be concerned by it.

 

[sloppypie]

You obviously have never played a college level sport.
Sure they enjoy parties but most of these kids are in the gym by 7 am.


I played sports and have many NFL friends and buddies with ncaa D1 athletes. These guys bust their ass.

Most super athletes play more than one sport as well. They spend the majority of their time dedicated to their sport not partying.

Especially the kids who wanna make the pros.


When a multi billion dollar corporation is covering up concussion for decades at the expense of the players that is the definition of exploitation

What aren't you absorbing here. These are simple facts.

for reals. i've had friends and roommates who did competitive sports in college and after, they have less time to do things than fuckin engineering majors. and they were always on the depressed or tired side like, all the fuckin time.

and the pressure they are under to perform, succeed, deal with injuries, etc. is just shitty. and none of them made it past like minor league stuff, which was always hard to listen to them talk about.

as a former athlete myself, i sympathize with the struggle. but i guess if little league baseball is the extent of a person's athletic career, then they don't quite understand what it is most athletes have to go through to make it. definitely not a career choice i'd want my kids to try to do.

 

[Kneepocalypse]

I dont agree with him and I think he's a cunt, but Im lolling more at the people getting so angry about his actions. Protesting for what you believe in is far more American than adhering to a cultural ceremonial ritual.

 

[HeirApparent]

Not standing for the anthem triggers a lot of morons.

Fixed

 

[kenetics]

I'm sorry, but if you want to illustrate oppression in America, you can't belong to the 1%. All these self righteous celebs who are perfect illustrations of how blacks aren't oppressed in America try to shit on the country that made them rich because its become a fad.

Ridiculous.

So just because he makes a lot of money, racism doesn't exist? Gtfo

 

[kenetics]

What's the point of standing for na anywAys?

If you pay your taxes, you do nuff already. This obsession with pledging some sort of "allegiance" by standing n saluting the flag is borderline fascism.

I agree, especially how American got where it is..

 

[ILLogic]

I'm all for whatever helps the Seahawks get back to the Super Bowl. So thanks, Kaepernick. Divide your locker room and continue bringing unnecessary negative attention to your team. I ain't mad atcha.

 

[livingdeadmoose]

Except a march doesn't give you brain damage.

Lol at a march being more brutal than football.

There is nothing cushy about top tier football players. You sound like a moron.

A career in the military can duck you up just as bad as a career in football.

Except a march doesn't give you brain damage.

Lol at a march being more brutal than football.

There is nothing cushy about top tier football players. You sound like a moron.

My guess is you don't know any retired veterans. I know a lot of guys who's body's are fucked up from long ruck marches in full gear. And I'd much rather deal with the brain trauma a football player gets than the brain trauma/PTSD infantry guys get. And considering nfl players get payed millions, yes their lives are comfy compared to most peoples. I'm not saying they don't work hard, but their paycheck makes up for 100 times over.

 

[oldshadow]

Gotta" love Sherdog. Free speech is only good when it follows your belief system.

I honestly don't care what this guy did. If he felt like he needed to do this, good for him. I don't necessary agree with his reason for not standing, but that's his business.

So no one here said to have him arrested.

So is that other people are not allowed to exercise their free speech to condemn his actions?

You know free speech goes both ways.

 

[dontsnitch]

Him earning a lot of money doesn't undermine his concern. You can think he is being disingenuous, but you don't need to be directly impacted by something to be concerned by it.

His claim is that this country oppresses people black people for having black skin, so you've got to see some irony in a very privileged black man making this complaint. Of course the fact that he keeps working in this country and amassing a fortune doesn't help him look genuine. That aside, you're right that anyone could make any complaint and it would have some value.

Aside from bad optics, what is his actual complaint? What is his solution? This being just another vague complaint about how bad the US is while reaping a small fortune makes you look like a doucebag in my eyes. It's the best country in the world for him to be in, and it's precisely why he's still there. I consider this pure virtue signaling.

 

[Trotsky]

Of all major American sports athletes, Kaepernick has had by far the most racist reaction towards him over his career. When he was rising in San Fran, people were constantly calling him a "thug," despite him being a model citizen, because of his tattoos and headphones.

 

[second sight]

During the off-season Colin Kaepernick converted to Islam. Colin Kaepernick is also engaged to Black Lives Matter activist and hip-hop radio personality DJ Nessa Diab. Black Lives Matter as an activist group is synonymous with promotion of authentic Islam.
In the social justice arena, there is no daylight between the various BLM activism groups, and activist Islam. They are interwoven amid every controversial eruption over the past six years. We have tried to draw attention to it numerous times, but many don’t fully grasp the scope of the relationship between radical Islam and Black Lives Matter. It’s a symbiosis, a complete synergy in activism and intent.
According to NFL players who are friends with Kaepernick, Colin and NessA Diab are going to have a traditional Muslim wedding.
It is not accidental that Nessa Diab -a BLM/Islam activist- and Colin Kaepernick cross paths, and meld ideological interests, especially when you consider the geography, the San Francisco area. Nessa also attended the University of California, Berkeley.Nessa began her career in San Francisco as the night time on-air personality before she was offered the position at Hot 97 in New York City. (link)

 

[Deleted member 196663]

His claim is that this country oppresses people black people for having black skin, so you've got to see some irony in a very privileged black man making this complaint. Of course the fact that he keeps working in this country and amassing a fortune doesn't help him look genuine. That aside, you're right that anyone could make any complaint and it would have some value.

Aside from bad optics, what is his actual complaint? What is his solution? This being just another vague complaint about how bad the US is while reaping a small fortune makes you look like a doucebag in my eyes. It's the best country in the world for him to be in, and it's precisely why he's still there. I consider this pure virtue signaling.

In response to your first sentence, I actually don't see the irony because Kaepernick doesn't even look black. And he's obviously talking about how a group at large is being treated, and not himself. So who he is and what he is = irrelevant to the idea presented. But according to your logic, a poor black garbage man complaining about the US would have a more credibility. But that's a lie as well.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Of all major American sports athletes, Kaepernick has had by far the most racist reaction towards him over his career. When he was rising in San Fran, people were constantly calling him a "thug," despite him being a model citizen, because of his tattoos and headphones.

You gotta do better than "thug" to claim the #1 spot.

 

[ILLogic]

During the off-season Colin Kaepernick converted to Islam. Colin Kaepernick is also engaged to Black Lives Matter activist and hip-hop radio personality DJ Nessa Diab. Black Lives Matter as an activist group is synonymous with promotion of authentic Islam.
In the social justice arena, there is no daylight between the various BLM activism groups, and activist Islam. They are interwoven amid every controversial eruption over the past six years. We have tried to draw attention to it numerous times, but many don’t fully grasp the scope of the relationship between radical Islam and Black Lives Matter. It’s a symbiosis, a complete synergy in activism and intent.
According to NFL players who are friends with Kaepernick, Colin and NessA Diab are going to have a traditional Muslim wedding.
It is not accidental that Nessa Diab -a BLM/Islam activist- and Colin Kaepernick cross paths, and meld ideological interests, especially when you consider the geography, the San Francisco area. Nessa also attended the University of California, Berkeley.Nessa began her career in San Francisco as the night time on-air personality before she was offered the position at Hot 97 in New York City. (link)

Wood be her burqa

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Fixed

Well, if you get into the reasons why he chose to sit down, there are a lot of points on which rational people can disagree.

 

[Trotsky]

His claim is that this country oppresses people black people for having black skin, so you've got to see some irony in a very privileged black man making this complaint. Of course the fact that he keeps working in this country and amassing a fortune doesn't help him look genuine. That aside, you're right that anyone could make any complaint and it would have some value.

Aside from bad optics, what is his actual complaint? What is his solution? This being just another vague complaint about how bad the US is while reaping a small fortune makes you look like a doucebag in my eyes. It's the best country in the world for him to be in, and it's precisely why he's still there. I consider this pure virtue signaling.

I know you're not being purposefully obtuse, so I'll try to explain cordially.

The idea that blackness begins and ends with skin complexion is a simplistic myth that must be done away with. This guy has received considerably racist backlash, and the mere fact that he was born a genetic athlete and was able to work his way to entering the 0.0001% of black men who get to make millions entertaining us (while generating exponentially higher profits for white owners) does not negate his experience with or recognition of systemic racism in America. What also needs to be addressed is that stating the existence of systemic or institutional racism is not saying that the systems are consciously upheld by a white majority who actively thinks blacks are lesser evil: they do however subsist off of the inaction, intellectual laziness, and, yes, racism of persons who think it's the black community's fault that it is predominantly focused in impoverished pockets of urban America, are exponentially more likely to be stopped by police, to receive regulatory infractions, to commit crime, and to experience in CJS.

The solution is simple: hold the police accountable and address economic stratification along racial lines. The means of achieving the solution will be discussed once white America sees that there is a problem.

 

[dontsnitch]

In response to your first sentence, I actually don't see the irony because Kaepernick doesn't even look black. And he's obviously talking about how a group at large is being treated, and not himself. So who he is and what he is = irrelevant to the idea presented. But according to your logic, a poor black garbage man complaining about the US would have a more credibility. But that's a lie as well.

I don't know about credibility, but someone who is actually being oppressed (I don't particularly like your garbage man example) has an actual basis of complaint. The fact that he's a walking example of why it's not a universal rule is just ironic. He could be right, but it's human to look at him and give a BJ Penn nod.

 

[Trotsky]

You gotta do better than "thug" to claim the #1 spot.

By and large, racism isn't as pronounced in American sports as it is in other parts of society, largely because of the industry's dependence on black athletes. There has been progress made in that regard. But the hostility towards Kaepernick was and continues to be very racially colored.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

During the off-season Colin Kaepernick converted to Islam. Colin Kaepernick is also engaged to Black Lives Matter activist and hip-hop radio personality DJ Nessa Diab. Black Lives Matter as an activist group is synonymous with promotion of authentic Islam.
In the social justice arena, there is no daylight between the various BLM activism groups, and activist Islam. They are interwoven amid every controversial eruption over the past six years. We have tried to draw attention to it numerous times, but many don’t fully grasp the scope of the relationship between radical Islam and Black Lives Matter. It’s a symbiosis, a complete synergy in activism and intent.
According to NFL players who are friends with Kaepernick, Colin and NessA Diab are going to have a traditional Muslim wedding.
It is not accidental that Nessa Diab -a BLM/Islam activist- and Colin Kaepernick cross paths, and meld ideological interests, especially when you consider the geography, the San Francisco area. Nessa also attended the University of California, Berkeley.Nessa began her career in San Francisco as the night time on-air personality before she was offered the position at Hot 97 in New York City. (link)

hahahahaha

This all makes perfect sense now.

What a fucking joke. Kaeperdick you absolutely SUCK.