Law Justice Kennedy Retires!!! New SCOTUS justice to be announced 9PM Monday, July 9th

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hello PolishHeadlock once more,

i think a vast majority of republican women and democratic women are pretty much the same, lol.

i think they have the same concerns, the same aspirations, and the same proclivity to have unwanted pregnancies.

there were over a half million abortions in 2014 - doesn't it seem likely that a good chunk of those were from women who might hew to the right?

i think its easy for conservatives to pontificate about the evils of abortion when its legal, just like its easy for righties to preach about fiscal conservatism when they're not the party in power.

when the rubber meets the road, i'd be surprised if professional politicians on the right would feel that is a fight they want to have. its not like they feel frightened of the evangelical voting bloc, who've been exposed as toothless and easily cowed.

- IGIT

I could see a case to be made, that this happens because corporatism invaded politics. That the doctrine of short term gains at the expense of long term viability has fully taken hold within the RNC.

Be a good test to see who is shaping who. Is the RNC shaping Trump, or is Trump shaping the RNC.
 
Yeah, but here is the real truth of WWII. Like today, we were so concerned that Russia might be a threat to the western world order, that we were literally supporting Nazi's.

That's a rather dubious historic claim to be true.

Stalin and Hitler had any number of influences in America, most were marginal, although the Communist Party had some possible connections to FDR's fairly high ranking officials, support in the New York Times famously, and in a lot of the arts, media, and further which was part of the understandable later "Red Scare."

All that aside, FDR was fairly out in front in speeches, private communications, and in the coming Battle of the Atlantic.

In a republic I am sure you can find this or that cooperation with the Axis and say "Ah ha!," as international diplomacy is by definition nuanced and complicated, however, saying white hat/black hat we were for Fascism before against it, or Communism, is not accurate. That is not historically valid or desirable when we were piling materials to the Allies and declared U.S. protection from shipping across the Atlantic.

Hitler also knew war with the United States was probably inevitable, but it was not a fight he was looking forward to.
 
Be a good test to see who is shaping who. Is the RNC shaping Trump, or is Trump shaping the RNC.

Long term definitely a good question, short term, the Donald has hijacked most of the activist and political power of the RNC.

Common Conservative voters, many Christians, and intellectuals of the right might hold Trump in disdain, but they do not have the power to reign Trump in or bring him down it seems.

Even though he is asleep at the wheel most of the time.
 
That's a rather dubious historic claim to be true.

Stalin and Hitler had any number of influences in America, most were marginal, although the Communist Party had some possible connections to FDR's fairly high ranking officials, support in the New York Times famously, and in a lot of the arts, media, and further which was part of the understandable later "Red Scare."

All that aside, FDR was fairly out in front in speeches, private communications, and in the coming Battle of the Atlantic.

In a republic I am sure you can find this or that cooperation with the Axis and say "Ah ha!," as international diplomacy is by definition nuanced and complicated, however, saying white hat/black hat we were for Fascism before against it, or Communism, is not accurate. That is not historically valid or desirable when we were piling materials to the Allies and declared U.S. protection from shipping across the Atlantic.

Hitler also knew war with the United States was probably inevitable, but it was not a fight he was looking forward to.

The CIA’s Worst-Kept Secret: Newly Declassified Files Confirm United States Collaboration with Nazis

https://ips-dc.org/the_cias_worst-k...nfirm_united_states_collaboration_with_nazis/
 
I really don't know enough about Kennedy to vote.
 
The CIA’s Worst-Kept Secret: Newly Declassified Files Confirm United States Collaboration with Nazis

https://ips-dc.org/the_cias_worst-k...nfirm_united_states_collaboration_with_nazis/

1. The source does nothing to change the historical facts of who was opposed early on, fought, and defeated.

2. The source acknowledges the changing threat of Hitler who was defeated, and the balance of justice between opposing Stalin and the fully militarized Soviet Union vs. who to Nuremberg and who to cooperate with.

Not an easy decision, although considering how many people were involved in the Holocaust, the difficulties of rebuilding and protecting Western Europe, and that the only thing worst than a Stalin is a Hitler, the decision is pretty easy to see A. from the facts on the ground at the time and B. even in today's shifting and relatively comfortable world morally shifting to ever oppose the past.

As well, there is probably a whole other argument counter to the rather radical source, and yet even going from that source there is not much there, there.
 
I really don't know enough about Kennedy to vote.

He seemed a rather pompous, self important jurists.

Then again, my opinion is purely anecdotal and one might consider he was the important swing vote on many defining opinions of the time. At worst the times made him critical.

I voted Kennedy as Top Tier for his impact. Many arguments were written specifically to sway Kennedy, as the lawyers knew the left and right would generally vote as blocs, especially the left on key issues.
 
1. The source does nothing to change the historical facts of who was opposed early on, fought, and defeated.

2. The source acknowledges the changing threat of Hitler who was defeated, and the balance of justice between opposing Stalin and the fully militarized Soviet Union vs. who to Nuremberg and who to cooperate with.

Not an easy decision, although considering how many people were involved in the Holocaust, the difficulties of rebuilding and protecting Western Europe, and that the only thing worst than a Stalin is a Hitler, the decision is pretty easy to see A. from the facts on the ground at the time and B. even in today's shifting and relatively comfortable world morally shifting to ever oppose the past.

As well, there is probably a whole other argument counter to the rather radical source, and yet even going from that source there is not much there, there.

I'm sorry, but you are not the good guy, when you employ "the butcher of Lyon".

It is not possible for Communism to be such a threat to justify that. A gun to the head wouldn't justify that.
 
I'm sorry, but you are not the good guy, when you employ "the butcher of Lyon".

It is not possible for Communism to be such a threat to justify that. A gun to the head wouldn't justify that.

No offense, but are you legitimately not very familiar with Uncle Joe? Purges, terror, a full on Holodomor?

A Berlin airlift for something contemporary for the time perhaps, or a later Berlin wall.

If you're rogues gallery is Hitler, Stalin, Hirohito, and Mussolini, followed by the leadership of the Cold War, double apologies but the United States and Europe come out looking like straight up shining white knights given that comparison.
 
No offense, but are you legitimately not very familiar with Uncle Joe? Purges, terror, a full on Holodomor?

A Berlin airlift for something contemporary for the time perhaps, or a later Berlin wall.

If you're rogues gallery is Hitler, Stalin, Hirohito, and Mussolini, followed by the leadership of the Cold War, double apologies but the United States and Europe come out looking like straight up shining white knights given that comparison.

I just don't know how anyone can be OK with employing some of the worse Nazi's in history.

What is it we were so afraid of to justify that?

I don't care how many millions Mao and Stalin killed, the solution can't be to hire people guilty of some of the worst atrocities in human history.

It's like preventing your house from being burnt down, by bulldozing it.
 
Goodbye Roe V Wade.



Honestly I was surprised this didn't cause more of an uproar among leftists at the time. I was a little nervous after he said that. But then...nothing. I guess with private servers, fbi investigations, pussy grabbing tapes, and hacked emails it kinda got lost in the mix.
 
Goodbye Roe V Wade.



Honestly I was surprised this didn't cause more of an uproar among leftists at the time. I was a little nervous after he said that. But then...nothing. I guess with private servers, fbi investigations, pussy grabbing tapes, and hacked emails it kinda got lost in the mix.



I do not want them to overturn Roe versus Wade (go back to state by state) I think that is a horrible horrible idea.
 
Goodbye Roe V Wade.



Honestly I was surprised this didn't cause more of an uproar among leftists at the time. I was a little nervous after he said that. But then...nothing. I guess with private servers, fbi investigations, pussy grabbing tapes, and hacked emails it kinda got lost in the mix.


good morning TheComebackKid,

why would this cause an uproar?

its boilerplate rhetoric from every nominee for POTUS from the GOP. they all claim to be pro life, they all assert that they'll nominate conservative judges (how could this be any sort of revelation?).

they all want it be a states rights issue - because change of this sort is usually legislated at a state level first, then the Federal government follows suit. this is true whether you're talking about the push to recognize same sex marriages in California, or the expansion of gun rights in Florida.

its true with the efforts of pro-lifers, too.

- IGIT
 
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I could see a case to be made, that this happens because corporatism invaded politics. That the doctrine of short term gains at the expense of long term viability has fully taken hold within the RNC.

Be a good test to see who is shaping who. Is the RNC shaping Trump, or is Trump shaping the RNC.

'morning Viva,

if the GOP seek to push for anti-abortion legislation at the Federal level, or if they use the bully pulpit to force the SCOTUS to hear a case that seriously threatens Roe vs Wade, it would be the evangelical wing of the party displaying strength that heretofore they've showed no signs of.

in your heart of hearts, does Mr. Trump really strike you as the sort of fellow who gets in a moral lather over a woman's right to choose?

that guy?

lol. i don't believe it for a second.

- IGIT
 
Shouldnt Trump pick someone much younger. Like a 50 year ?

ahoy Seaside,

aye.

i figure the nominee will be in their forties.

young enough to ensure at least a quarter century of conservative, "originalist" edicts from the bench.

- IGIT
 
ahoy Seaside,

aye.

i figure the nominee will be in their forties.

young enough to ensure at least a quarter century of conservative, "originalist" edicts from the bench.

- IGIT

Amy Barret. 45, Notre Dame Professor that had all 49 of her fellow colleagues endorse her for her current spot on the 7th. 30 year judge easy, if not more.
 
Amy Barret. 45, Notre Dame Professor that had all 49 of her fellow colleagues endorse her for her current spot on the 7th. 30 year judge easy, if not more.

hello and nice to meet you, Dirt Road Soldier,

sure. sounds about right.

with a bit of luck, conservatives could hold sway for many decades on the SCOTUS.

like i said, this was one of the principle consequences (or depending on your outlook, a bonus) of Mrs. Clinton's defeat. its not just the SCOTUS, either... its the appellate courts too.

its endless. the ramifications (or depending on your outlook, the list of delights) for the US will go on for decade upon decade.

- IGIT
 
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