Just rewatched Fedor versus Werdum

HE'S THE GOATEST :D
and i just rewatched Dan Henderson vs. Fedor Emelianenko
fucking hell Dan was way smaller than Fedor and Fedor was shocked how strong Dan was
i hope Henderson knock the shit out of Bisping in the first round
Dan Henderson is a fucking GOAT
 
Even before this fight Fedor had been slipping. It just finally caught up to him here.

I think he looked bad against Brett Rogers, his true prime ended when he stepped foot in Strikeforce. Before that he looked unstoppable.
 
Fedor knew that he could not be as reserved against Werdum as he was against Big Nog because he clearly respected Werdum's skillset fighting off his back. Fedor's intention was to finish the fight as fast as he could because Werdum was good enough to catch him. And he did.

That makes very little sense, Fedor was afraid of Werdums sub game so his response was a tactical choice to try and GnP him in a very dangerous manner even after he'd almost been triangle once?

What makes much more sense is that by that point Fedor was much less tactically aware than he had been and just looking to finish everyone quickly and this combined with declined grappling ability got him finished.

Nobody is as dangerous from there back as you claim Werdum is, we recently saw Mark Hunt ride out most of a round ontop of him. Plus of course you watch any of the Fedor.Nog matches and you'll see excellent close control inbetween the spells of GnP.
 
EPO does not change your body. It changes your cardio to be much better.

Even than, Fedor had a higher amount of fat than others, which means that he could had increased his muscle mass and yet you would not be really able to tell because of his bodyfat covering his muscle frame.

If you ever seen pics of Fedor when he was younger, he was more cut up. He then started having more fat when he started fighting professionally. But he also started looking more stocky which means that he could had increased his muscle mass but yet not make it as noticeable because of his bodyfat.

At the end of the day, Fedor had enormous gripping strength which could had been attributed from him taking steroids.

Or being the best in the world at sambo and gripping Gis. Worst argument ever.
 
Even all the great fighters admitted so. There will always be a few whacked out Sherdoggies who will disagree. Doesn't change reality.
 
I wouldn't say he looked terrible vs Rogers BUT I think you can see quite well what his strengths and weaknesses were by that point. Standing he was a bit easier to hit and a bit sloppier at points but he still was an effective head hunter, grappling wise though he was too easily pushed into the cage and lost position on the ground.
 
Looking back at his career I should have realized the end was near when he struggled against Rodgers
I guess I wasn't ready to admit it to myself yet
 
The fact that Fedor is here in 2016 and winning against someone Maldonado despite what the haters think because he did win that decision says a lot about how good Fedor is
now.

You thinking he won that decision actually says alot about you sir.

Go rewatch the fight without your "Fedors my hero" glasses on.
 
What I would say as well is that I think there is a clear difference between Fedor vs Arlovski/Rogers and Bigfoot in terms of striking.

Fedor had become older and slower but standing I'd say he was still pretty canny late in his undefeated run. Against Arlovski and Brett he does not become over aggressive and brawl, he limits his offence to a few opportune moments and otherwise focuses on his defence not getting drawn into exchanges.

Against Bigfoot though that clearly changes, at points where the Fedor of even a year previous would have stayed on the defence waiting his moment he instead starts to brawl throwing a load of punches without much timing or thought to defence.
 
YFact: despite Silva being a natural HW and proven cheater he couldn't even do anything to nick diaz.
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Fact: Conor gave up 35+ pounds to diaz

35+ pounds? So nate rehydrated from 170 to 208lbs?



Wait....where are you getting these "facts" from?
 
What assumption, you said you're an atheist,as for my belief in god well I highly doubt that the earth could exist with the perfect ratio of molecules for the existence of water and air,not to mention the position of the moon and sun is so perfect that if it were off just by a minute fraction we would either burn up or freeze and what are you gonna say that was all just by chance and earth just happens to be one of the only planets to have all these components come together perfectly,I doubt it.

Than there's the big bang theory that astrophysicists say anywhere from 10 to 15 billion years ago the universe exploded into being and the problem with this is when they are asked what is was before the explosion they say non being and that is analytically false to say that something just exploded into being, for it was in a state of “being” before it exploded, then it just didn’t explode into being from non-being,the point is that space(0)+time(0)+chance(0)=everything,as you can see it is an equation with no numbers in it,it is missing causation.

The law of causality is so fundamental that if I said that the chair you are sitting on, which must have had a beginning, just popped into existence without any cause, you might justifiably think I need a psychiatric assessment and you‘d be right! If at one time there was absolutely nothing that existed, then nothing would exist today. Something had to have existed before the finite, singularity of the Big Bang even.

Something cannot come from nothing.

The false assumption you made of me being an atheist because I am some young hipster is funny. I am in my 30s and been an Atheist since I was 18.

What I find ironic and rather hilarious is that you are using the pseudoscience argument of intelligent design as your basis in trying to convince me that God is real, when in fact the whole concept of intelligent design in itself did not become mainstream until like 10 years ago.

So who is the one trying to be hip here?

What I also find hilariously ironic is that you are trying to argue the whole natural development of the universe with the concept of intelligent design, while also trying to convince me that some mystery Jewish ghost in the sky raped a virgin woman who gave birth to a hippie looking zombie. LOL!!!!

Add to that the fact that you expect me to believe that the human race originally came from two white people giving birth to the rest of the human race from them having incestuous sex.

BUT.....What I also find ironic is your last sentence, considering the fact that you believe that some Jewish ghost made the Universe out of what? Nothing.

Tell me. From where did this Jewish ghost made the Universe? From an artificial simulation cyber intelligent program?

And if something cannot come out of nothing and yet you believe that this Jewish ghost made the Universe out of nothing, than where did this Jewish ghost came from then? Please do not tell me that he was always infinite. That itself contradicts that something cannot come from nothing.

Than you want to talk all this intelligent design babble about the Earth having perfect components, when in fact all you are really doing is sounding like that clown in an intelligent design video that once tried to break down the perfection of a banana as definite proof that God does exists. Come on bro. At least I can say that I became an Atheist when it was not hip while not trying to sound like a parrot.

Plus look at how egocentric you sound with that whole Earth "having a perfect component" BS. Do you really believed that the Earth is the only planet in this vast universe to have life? There are many planets being discover every year that shows evidence of having life.

Even in our very own planet itself, the human race as well as every species on here has evolved based off where they have settled in. Black people are black because they needed more melanin to survive the ultra violet rays of the sun in Africa while they evolved. Whites did not need as much melanin while living in the more winter harsh areas of Europe.

And more and more evidence continues to surface that Mars indeed also had life on it's planet as well.

As for saying that something cannot come from nothing.....Did you ever hear of how the gravitational energy of the universe is negative being that the energy of matter is positive? So with the energy of gravitation being negative, it will always add up to zero. Therefore, creating a closed universe out of nothing does not violate any conservation laws simply based off this assessment.

Calculations also shows that a universe created from nothing is likely to be much smaller than a proton. A realm smaller than a proton that was to contain just a tiny amount of repulsive-gravity elements would be enough cause an ignition that would result in a process of eternal inflation thus leading to the universe we inhabit today.

Plus so far scientist has actually been able to create light from inside a vacuum, which is virtually empty space entirely devoid of matter. But did you know that even in a vacuum area of empty space that there are virtual particles that winks in and out of existence? Why is that? Simple. It's because of anti-particles.

There is alot more than what you have been lead to believed.

But instead you rather believe that some comic book character derived from a real revolutionist who was tan skinned to even black skinned and repainted to look like a 196s hippie is the man who saved the human race all because a Jewish host who admitted to being a jealous God went on to sadistically have his "son" tortured. If this Jewish ghost was really that powerful of a God than he should not have a living soul go through the burden of such suffering.

So what instead was suppose to happen had this zombie not been born from a virgin woman who was raped? Are you going to tell me that the souls of the entire human race would had ended up in an imaginary place that was drawn up from a poem called "Divine Comedy"?
 
You thinking he won that decision actually says alot about you sir.

Go rewatch the fight without your "Fedors my hero" glasses on.

The only thing I have to know is the difference between a 10-8 and 10-9 round because if you believe Fabio got a 10-8 round than that says a lot about you sir and how you go right along with the group think on sites like these.
 
That makes very little sense, Fedor was afraid of Werdums sub game so his response was a tactical choice to try and GnP him in a very dangerous manner even after he'd almost been triangle once?

What makes much more sense is that by that point Fedor was much less tactically aware than he had been and just looking to finish everyone quickly and this combined with declined grappling ability got him finished.

Now you are just making excuses Fedor. His grappling did not declined. He simply fought a superior grappling who he knew would be a threat if he were not to try and end the fight quick with ground and pound.

You're bias is so heavy that you are even trying to convince me that Sambo is superior to any other style just based off you being his fan. When in fact you never even trained Sambo to basically speak off experience.

Nobody is as dangerous from there back as you claim Werdum is, we recently saw Mark Hunt ride out most of a round ontop of him. Plus of course you watch any of the Fedor.Nog matches and you'll see excellent close control in between the spells of GnP.


Now you are being hyperbolic like the rest of these worshipers. I don't get why worshipers have to be so hyperbolic when fabricating things about their favorite fighter. Hunt was only on top of Werdum's guard for less than two minutes in that round before he decided to get out of the guard and move away. Hunt was like practically 30 pounds heavier than Werdum and had him against the cage, combined this with Hunt developing much more grappling experience over the years, and it will forced a lesser weighed BJJ stylist even as great as Werdum to expand more time and energy in trying to set up for a submission.

Fact is Hunt did not do anything in that guard. But since you want to bring up Hunt as an example, it was Hunt himself who was on top side mount of Fedor while having attempted two Americana armbars, and this was before Hunt had developed the grappling experience he has today. And how ironic is it that Hunt was actually able to hang on the ground with both Werdum and Bigfoot who were the same two guys that owned Fedor on the ground.

You dug a hole for yourself by using Mark Hunt as an example.

Fact is this...Fedor has never submitted a heavyweight primary BJJ specialist. So basically Fedor has submitted kickboxers, wrestlers, freakshow fighters and middleweights but never a HW primary BJJ specialist.
 
The false assumption you made of me being an atheist because I am some young hipster is funny. I am in my 30s and been an Atheist since I was 18.

What I find ironic and rather hilarious is that you are using the pseudoscience argument of intelligent design as your basis in trying to convince me that God is real, when in fact the whole concept of intelligent design in itself did not become mainstream until like 10 years ago.

So who is the one trying to be hip here?

What I also find hilariously ironic is that you are trying to argue the whole natural development of the universe with the concept of intelligent design, while also trying to convince me that some mystery Jewish ghost in the sky raped a virgin woman who gave birth to a hippie looking zombie. LOL!!!!

Add to that the fact that you expect me to believe that the human race originally came from two white people giving birth to the rest of the human race from them having incestuous sex.

BUT.....What I also find ironic is your last sentence, considering the fact that you believe that some Jewish ghost made the Universe out of what? Nothing.

Tell me. From where did this Jewish ghost made the Universe? From an artificial simulation cyber intelligent program?

And if something cannot come out of nothing and yet you believe that this Jewish ghost made the Universe out of nothing, than where did this Jewish ghost came from then? Please do not tell me that he was always infinite. That itself contradicts that something cannot come from nothing.

Than you want to talk all this intelligent design babble about the Earth having perfect components, when in fact all you are really doing is sounding like that clown in an intelligent design video that once tried to break down the perfection of a banana as definite proof that God does exists. Come on bro. At least I can say that I became an Atheist when it was not hip while not trying to sound like a parrot.

Plus look at how egocentric you sound with that whole Earth "having a perfect component" BS. Do you really believed that the Earth is the only planet in this vast universe to have life? There are many planets being discover every year that shows evidence of having life.

Even in our very own planet itself, the human race as well as every species on here has evolved based off where they have settled in. Black people are black because they needed more melanin to survive the ultra violet rays of the sun in Africa while they evolved. Whites did not need as much melanin while living in the more winter harsh areas of Europe.

And more and more evidence continues to surface that Mars indeed also had life on it's planet as well.

As for saying that something cannot come from nothing.....Did you ever hear of how the gravitational energy of the universe is negative being that the energy of matter is positive? So with the energy of gravitation being negative, it will always add up to zero. Therefore, creating a closed universe out of nothing does not violate any conservation laws simply based off this assessment.

Calculations also shows that a universe created from nothing is likely to be much smaller than a proton. A realm smaller than a proton that was to contain just a tiny amount of repulsive-gravity elements would be enough cause an ignition that would result in a process of eternal inflation thus leading to the universe we inhabit today.

Plus so far scientist has actually been able to create light from inside a vacuum, which is virtually empty space entirely devoid of matter. But did you know that even in a vacuum area of empty space that there are virtual particles that winks in and out of existence? Why is that? Simple. It's because of anti-particles.

There is alot more than what you have been lead to believed.

But instead you rather believe that some comic book character derived from a real revolutionist who was tan skinned to even black skinned and repainted to look like a 196s hippie is the man who saved the human race all because a Jewish host who admitted to being a jealous God went on to sadistically have his "son" tortured. If this Jewish ghost was really that powerful of a God than he should not have a living soul go through the burden of such suffering.

So what instead was suppose to happen had this zombie not been born from a virgin woman who was raped? Are you going to tell me that the souls of the entire human race would had ended up in an imaginary place that was drawn up from a poem called "Divine Comedy"?
 
The only thing I have to know is the difference between a 10-8 and 10-9 round because if you believe Fabio got a 10-8 round than that says a lot about you sir and how you go right along with the group think on sites like these.
I dont read these forums enough to know what the "group" opinion is.

I watched that fight with my own two eyes.
What i saw was a dominant first from Fabio. Strong 10-9 could make a case for 10-8.
A great round 2 for Fedor although nowhere near as lopsided as round one.

And a very close third round that could have been tied. But i gave it to fabio for starting strong and finishing strong. He almost dropped Fedor again at the start of the third and had clean boxing throughout the whole third.

It didnt help his cause that whenever fedor lunged in with hooks and knees it didnt matter if they were connecting or not , the announcers and the crowd were going crazy like Fabio was im some sort of trouble. Fedor never once had Fabio rocked , dazed or wobbly. Bloodied up yes. Fabio put Fedor in LaLa Land atleast 3-5 times in that fight. Props to Fedor for staying so aggressive through it all, hes a warrior.
 
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