Just rewatched Fedor versus Werdum

[AC1D1K]

Greatest of all time is dumb / pointless... if the top 5 in a division fought the other top guys ( like a round robin tournament structure) fifty times each we would have some data to analyze , but we don't. if the Yankess and Mets played one time, would the winner be the greatest?

 

[Dana_is_your_GOD]

Wow this is really ignorant.

You don't have to look any certain way to take roids. Want to know why? Because there are many different type of roids. Matter of fact, Fedor's greatest strength was his amazing cardio as well as his powerful grip.

Grips can be enhance by roids that increases strength without really increasing muscle mass (Anavar is a good example).

We are talking about a guy that broke his hands on more than one occasion but still had amazing gripping power to pull off submissions on monster.

Then there is EPO aka blood doping. Fedor was never tested for EPO. But the guy was strong enough to deal with the big boys yet had the cardo and speed of smaller dudes.

To say that Fedor never took PED just because he did not looked the part is extremely naive and just plain dumb.

Fedors body never changed very much and he was tested in the US.

The fact that people in Pride used roids means it was an even playing field. When people like Silva and Jones use roids that gives them an uneven playing field.

And you can forget the argument about how 2 substances that showed up twice in testing were a false positive for 1 substance, since that doesn't happen in lab testing. Especially 2 different substances showing up as 1 substance. The only people that believe that is trying to cover for jones or is full retard.

 

[vintagemmafan]

Man you are really bad at making assumptions about people. Don't quit your day job there buddy.

At least you proved my point. I mean if you want to worship a bullshit mystery God because you are too stupid to see reality for what it is than go ahead.

It all deals with common sense, logic and knowing your true history. You do not have the mental capacity to manifest any of these attributes.

So stay believing in your make believe Jewish God through a Jewish zombie who was repainted white while being revised from the portrait of the son of Pope Alexander V.

What assumption, you said you're an atheist,as for my belief in god well I highly doubt that the earth could exist with the perfect ratio of molecules for the existence of water and air,not to mention the position of the moon and sun is so perfect that if it were off just by a minute fraction we would either burn up or freeze and what are you gonna say that was all just by chance and earth just happens to be one of the only planets to have all these components come together perfectly,I doubt it.

Than there's the big bang theory that astrophysicists say anywhere from 10 to 15 billion years ago the universe exploded into being and the problem with this is when they are asked what is was before the explosion they say non being and that is analytically false to say that something just exploded into being, for it was in a state of “being” before it exploded, then it just didn’t explode into being from non-being,the point is that space(0)+time(0)+chance(0)=everything,as you can see it is an equation with no numbers in it,it is missing causation.

The law of causality is so fundamental that if I said that the chair you are sitting on, which must have had a beginning, just popped into existence without any cause, you might justifiably think I need a psychiatric assessment and you‘d be right! If at one time there was absolutely nothing that existed, then nothing would exist today. Something had to have existed before the finite, singularity of the Big Bang even.

Something cannot come from nothing.

 

[knowsitall]

 

[scardera]

I'm not so sure that Fedor actually hurt Werdum. Looks like Werdum is doing his usual "get touched anywhere and pull guard" routine. He does it against everyone, even against Browne. Still no shame at all about getting caught by Werdum, or losing to TRT Bigfoot/Hendo for that matter.

this but Fedor fans going full retard as usual...now they gonnna go jerk off to Fedor Vs Zulu

 

[Dana_is_your_GOD]

this but Fedor fans going full retard as usual...now they gonnna go jerk off to Fedor Vs Zulu

Fedor was good enough to make everyone look terrible in his prime. Zulu would have been a handful for some current UFC heavyweights. They would have won, but not like Fedor did.

 

[Dana_is_your_GOD]

Your point?

 

[Dana_is_your_GOD]

What assumption, you said you're an atheist,as for my belief in god well I highly doubt that the earth could exist with the perfect ratio of molecules for the existence of water and air,not to mention the position of the moon and sun is so perfect that if it were off just by a minute fraction we would either burn up or freeze and what are you gonna say that was all just by chance and earth just happens to be one of the only planets to have all these components come together perfectly,I doubt it.

Than there's the big bang theory that astrophysicists say anywhere from 10 to 15 billion years ago the universe exploded into being and the problem with this is when they are asked what is was before the explosion they say non being and that is analytically false to say that something just exploded into being, for it was in a state of “being” before it exploded, then it just didn’t explode into being from non-being,the point is that space(0)+time(0)+chance(0)=everything,as you can see it is an equation with no numbers in it,it is missing causation.

The law of causality is so fundamental that if I said that the chair you are sitting on, which must have had a beginning, just popped into existence without any cause, you might justifiably think I need a psychiatric assessment and you‘d be right! If at one time there was absolutely nothing that existed, then nothing would exist today. Something had to have existed before the finite, singularity of the Big Bang even.

Something cannot come from nothing.

He's attempting to troll you, brah. Although he's doing a terrible job, and getting trolled himself.

 

[scardera]

Fedor was good enough to make everyone look terrible in his prime. Zulu would have been a handful for some current UFC heavyweights. They would have won, but not like Fedor did.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[chosey whales]

Fun Fact - Werdum trained for this exact finish. He would spin and spin until he got dizzy, to mimic the effect of being rocked by Fedor's power shots, then he would fall down and have training partners leap into his guard. That was literally how he got prepared for Fedor. And it fucking worked.

Crazy awesome .blows my mind that's why u gotta train for your opponent not some random guy

 

[Towerworld]

There you go with more what ifs....Man what is up with you pathetic losers always dwelling on what never happened while straying away from reality?

What was it that happened to Conor when he first fought Nate Diaz?

Conor got tapped the fuck out.

Plain and simple. No what if this or that. So shut the fuck up with all this make believe shit. .


But hey I can play the what if game too:


What if Michael Jackson would have grown up to be as big as Too Tall Jones?

What if Conor became a Lucha Libre pro wrestler in Mexico instead of a MMA fighter?

What if Michael Jordan would had never went to college and instead started selling encyclopedias door to door?

What if you are mentally retarded, but you are too mentally retarded to even realize it?

What if.....

You're like a child plugging their ears and refusing to listen to reason. Fact: despite Silva being a natural HW and proven cheater he couldn't even do anything to nick diaz.

Fact: Conor gave up 35+ pounds to diaz but dropped him from bell to bell and like i said knocked out p4p #1 Jose Aldo in 13 secounds. Silva nor fedor have ever fought anyone of that caliber let alone knocked them out.

 

[knowsitall]

Your point?

A hw goat doesn't get beat by a bottom end top 50 LHW.

 

[Dana_is_your_GOD]

A hw goat doesn't get beat by a bottom end top 50 LHW.

He's not in his prime and he actually didn't lose. Anything can happen when your past your prime.

 

[King Cobra]

Something cannot come from nothing.[/QUOTE]

You're like a child plugging their ears and refusing to listen to reason. Fact: despite Silva being a natural HW and proven cheater he couldn't even do anything to nick diaz.

You do know that Silva came off from a year laid off due to a career threatening injury when he fought Nick Diaz right? You shit for brains. I mean does your mental disability disallowed you to remember simple things like this?

Only a beta male who cannot bench press more than 50 pounds will call a man a cheater for taking steroids to help rehabilitate his body back into fighting shape after breaking his fucking leg in half....Especially considering the fact that Silva tested positive for having metabolites of the steroids, not actually being on it during the fight.

Fact: Conor gave up 35+ pounds to diaz but dropped him from bell to bell and like i said knocked out p4p #1 Jose Aldo in 13 secounds. Silva nor fedor have ever fought anyone of that caliber let alone knocked them out.

This is when you know when a man is a beta male wimp who worships fighters. They will fabricate things just in hopes that it will help them win an online argument. Conor did not give up 35. The most was 15 if anything and even then Conor was the one who was running like a chicken later on in that fight.

FACT: Conor still got tapped out by Nate Diaz.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Your point?

He's proud of his achievement of fitting his entire head up Dana's rectum, not easy to type whilst doing it though.

 

[King Cobra]

Really a lot of sambo is about providing that environment, Fedor and Sergei were training with high level boxing coaches who were connected to Sambo and generally I think combat Sambo is more of a meeting point that a very specific style.

Although BJJ is hardly uniform either, Big Nog for example trained at Carlson Gracie's gym in Rio and his focus was not on winning at sport BJJ it was in applicability to real self defence and NHB fighting.

It is hard to simulate a real fight on the ground without a face cage. Sambo had that figured out which made them to be more ahead of the game in that regard than BJJ. But everything eventually started falling into place here in the Western part of the world. One thing I will give to Russians is that they don't play around when it comes sporting activities.

I even remembered when I first started BJJ in 1999 and I asked my coach one day if we can train MMA on the ground with a catcher's mask worn in baseball. He looked at me as if I had two heads.

There is clearly a difference and I would argue that style plus indeed Fedor's aggressive Sambo/Judo style is actually more applicable to MMA than more conventional sport position then submission style would. Werdum of course can do both but its been from his back that he's won his important victories with grappling. In Fedor's case of course in MMA he also added GnP into the mix and at his peak I think he was the most advanced GnPer ever in MMA, again the way he attacked Nog in 2003 was totally different from the way he got subbed by Werdum which was much more your standard wrestler GnP and punished just the same way as Nog punished people on tried that on him.

Fedor knew that he could not be as reserved against Werdum as he was against Big Nog because he clearly respected Werdum's skillset fighting off his back. Fedor's intention was to finish the fight as fast as he could because Werdum was good enough to catch him. And he did.

 

[Dana_is_your_GOD]

I mean does your mental disability disallowed you to remember simple things like this?

 

[King Cobra]

Fedors body never changed very much and he was tested in the US.

The fact that people in Pride used roids means it was an even playing field. When people like Silva and Jones use roids that gives them an uneven playing field.

And you can forget the argument about how 2 substances that showed up twice in testing were a false positive for 1 substance, since that doesn't happen in lab testing. Especially 2 different substances showing up as 1 substance. The only people that believe that is trying to cover for jones or is full retard.

EPO does not change your body. It changes your cardio to be much better.

Even than, Fedor had a higher amount of fat than others, which means that he could had increased his muscle mass and yet you would not be really able to tell because of his bodyfat covering his muscle frame.

If you ever seen pics of Fedor when he was younger, he was more cut up. He then started having more fat when he started fighting professionally. But he also started looking more stocky which means that he could had increased his muscle mass but yet not make it as noticeable because of his bodyfat.

At the end of the day, Fedor had enormous gripping strength which could had been attributed from him taking steroids.

 

[Hi-Tech]

Fedor practically beat Werdum in that fight, he destroyed more brain cells and walked out without a scratch.

 

[Reddd]

Actually this fight showed what happens when you barely train with any elite fighters for a long time and fight a bunch of freak show fights. You lose fighter intelligence, and other fighters got a lot better. Iron sharpen iron, and Fedor's iron didn't get any sharper. Simple as that.

He was never GOAT based on the shitty list of guys he beat in the worst division of all of MMA. He rarely dominated his fights and struggled to beat a lot of guys. Losing to guys like Hendo who was old as hell and Bigfoot makes any calling the GOAT as a fan with zero credibility. Fedor got humiliated several times. He didn't just lose because he was old. He trained like shit, and received the proper consequences for his poor decisions he made for his career.