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Change to requirements to serve in combat roles expected to drastically cut number of women

Joseph Gedeon in Washington

The US army unveiled plans on Monday to require a fitness test with identical physical standards for men and women in combat positions after the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, ordered the elimination of gender-based fitness requirements in frontline roles.

The revamped army fitness test, which replaces the combat fitness test, will be “sex-neutral” and force female soldiers in 21 combat specialties to meet the same benchmarks as men – a change expected to drastically cut the number of women qualifying for these positions.
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- Finally some good news, Murdoch. It's called project Universal Soldier, not universal kitchen!
That's machism, sargeant!
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“The five-event AFT is designed to enhance Soldier fitness, improve warfighting readiness, and increase the lethality of the force,” the army said in a press release.

Gone is the “standing power throw” or “ball yeet”, replaced with a streamlined assessment of deadlifts, push-ups, planks, a two-mile run and a sprint-drag-carry exercise. For younger women, the standards jump significantly – deadlifting 140lb instead of 120, and shaving nearly 90 seconds off required run times.

The new policy appears to contradict findings from a 2017 study of US army soldiers that concluded “gaps in cardiorespiratory and muscular performances between men and women should be addressed through targeted physical training programs that aim to minimize physiological differences” rather than applying identical standards.
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- Are yous guys listening to it? Mortars, bombs, machine-guss and cars exploding everywere. Still far more calm than being married!
Sir, i dont think thats a very nice coment!
- Shut up, Murdock!


A 2022 Rand Corporation study also found that women and older service members were failing the previous fitness test “at significantly higher rates than men and younger troops”, which raises questions about the feasibility of the new standardized requirements.

Combat soldiers must now score “a minimum of 60 points per event and an overall minimum score of 350” under the sex-neutral standards, according to the army’s press release. Active-duty troops have until January 2026 to meet requirements, while national guard and reserve members have until June 2026.

Hegseth has previously said that he does not think women should be allowed to serve in combat roles, though he later moderated his stance. The former Fox News host wrote in a recent book that “women cannot physically meet the same standards as men” and that mothers were needed “but not in the military, especially in combat units”.

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- This is the secret for a long marriage, Murdoch. I've been married for 20 years.
In the warzone i dont have to listen to my daughters, my son in law. And i am even friend with the russians. That's why we keep missing the shots and so theirs.
That's why men created wars, to have peace!


Soldiers who fail to meet the new standards twice consecutively face potential removal from the army or, according to Sgt Maj Christopher Mullinax, would be required to transfer to non-combat roles, which will continue using sex- and age-based scoring.

The army will begin rolling out the changes on 1 June, with full implementation guidelines expected in May.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/22/pete-hegseth-women-combat-army-fitness-test
 
If I was a girl soldier I would prefer this. Where is the glory in being carried as a burden because you're a box to be checked? This way you can know you stand among Joan of Ark, Boudica, the queen who killed Cyrus, etc.
 
Eh, I'm not mad about this, at least for combat arms. Like, I think it's fine for male and female IT specialists or whatever to have separate fitness standards (and if it ensures those roles don't go undermanned, it's probably for the best), but if they're going to let women into the infantry, they should absolutely be held to the same standards as men.
 
They shoulda done this a long time ago

Seeing women or children die in combat is devastating for morale

They already did a study on this in the Marines and it showed when a female in the group dies in combat, the morale goes way down than when another man dies.

 
If I was a girl soldier I would prefer this. Where is the glory in being carried as a burden because you're a box to be checked? This way you can know you stand among Joan of Ark, Boudica, the queen who killed Cyrus, etc.
- I agree. We need to rise to the ocasion, not the ocasion lower herself to us.
 
They shoulda done this a long time ago

Seeing women or children die in combat is devastating for morale

They already did a study on this in the Marines and it showed when a female in the group dies in combat, the morale goes way down than when another man dies.


- I read that study. I think was posted here a couple of times.
 
The physical standard ought to be by role. If you want to be infantry, then you have to pass their test. If you want to be a SEAL, then you have to pass their test. If you're going to be a desk jockey, perhaps the standards should be lower. I don't want to turn away capable people, but they have to be in a role they are physically suited for.
 
Change to requirements to serve in combat roles expected to drastically cut number of women

Joseph Gedeon in Washington

The US army unveiled plans on Monday to require a fitness test with identical physical standards for men and women in combat positions after the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, ordered the elimination of gender-based fitness requirements in frontline roles.

The revamped army fitness test, which replaces the combat fitness test, will be “sex-neutral” and force female soldiers in 21 combat specialties to meet the same benchmarks as men – a change expected to drastically cut the number of women qualifying for these positions.
54310360231_f1f308327a_z.jpg

- Finally some good news, Murdoch. It's called project Universal Soldier, not universal kitchen!
That's machism, sargeant!
- F@*k your feelings, Murdock. Were going to kill or get killed, now just shoot your tren and get swolle!


“The five-event AFT is designed to enhance Soldier fitness, improve warfighting readiness, and increase the lethality of the force,” the army said in a press release.

Gone is the “standing power throw” or “ball yeet”, replaced with a streamlined assessment of deadlifts, push-ups, planks, a two-mile run and a sprint-drag-carry exercise. For younger women, the standards jump significantly – deadlifting 140lb instead of 120, and shaving nearly 90 seconds off required run times.

The new policy appears to contradict findings from a 2017 study of US army soldiers that concluded “gaps in cardiorespiratory and muscular performances between men and women should be addressed through targeted physical training programs that aim to minimize physiological differences” rather than applying identical standards.
30027386358_da3c805148_c.jpg

- Are yous guys listening to it? Mortars, bombs, machine-guss and cars exploding everywere. Still far more calm than being married!
Sir, i dont think thats a very nice coment!
- Shut up, Murdock!


A 2022 Rand Corporation study also found that women and older service members were failing the previous fitness test “at significantly higher rates than men and younger troops”, which raises questions about the feasibility of the new standardized requirements.

Combat soldiers must now score “a minimum of 60 points per event and an overall minimum score of 350” under the sex-neutral standards, according to the army’s press release. Active-duty troops have until January 2026 to meet requirements, while national guard and reserve members have until June 2026.

Hegseth has previously said that he does not think women should be allowed to serve in combat roles, though he later moderated his stance. The former Fox News host wrote in a recent book that “women cannot physically meet the same standards as men” and that mothers were needed “but not in the military, especially in combat units”.

42665977422_4a4dced082_z.jpg

- This is the secret for a long marriage, Murdoch. I've been married for 20 years.
In the warzone i dont have to listen to my daughters, my son in law. And i am even friend with the russians. That's why we keep missing the shots and so theirs.
That's why men created wars, to have peace!


Soldiers who fail to meet the new standards twice consecutively face potential removal from the army or, according to Sgt Maj Christopher Mullinax, would be required to transfer to non-combat roles, which will continue using sex- and age-based scoring.

The army will begin rolling out the changes on 1 June, with full implementation guidelines expected in May.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/22/pete-hegseth-women-combat-army-fitness-test

Men only have to deadlift 140lbs? LOL

I pulled 315 with broke back form my literal first day in the gym as a 15 year old fatty 😂
 
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Buddy boy, you DM me when you're in Nova Scotia and I'll make arrangements for you and I to have a good ol' Canadian Donnybrook. No nasty shit, fair rules fisticuff. We'll film it for the Sherbros. I have a fair amount of doubters I'd like to prove wrong.
Anytime this summer. Be warned, it won’t be pretty.
 
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