Dont want to be annoying but I dont know what is the problem. I was not accusing any fighter and the aim was to make a serious discussion. Dont want to infringe the rules, I think I did nothing wrong. If mods can tell me what the problem was, I have no problem fixing this, dont want to infringe rules, honestly I think the thread was okay. THIS IS THE THREAD: http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/h...any-get-actually-caught-your-toughts.3813387/ Spoiler I have no inside information, and I dont know fighters or gyms But considering every athlete says in other sports (remember cycling), most of the times almost every guy is using PEDs and only a few get actually caught. Has been like that since always because PEDs development is always ahead of detection methods. So. What do you think or know based on information, whatever that is ?? To me, I think 40-50% of the entire roster must be in some kind of PED. Simple as that. And USADA is doing their job but science of PED always gonna be ahead of science of detection. Do you have different information ?? thoughts ??? Do you really think the guys who get caught are the only ones doing it '??