JOKER Origin Movie (First Poster Released)

Will Joaquin Phoenix make a good Joker


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This is kind of like hitting on a girl, being shutdown in embarrassing fashion, and then telling your friends "I didn't want to bang her anyway."

DC just has zero game.

DC getting Friend Zoned by comic book movie fans:)
 
Exactly. The Joker himself even says this in one of the comics,

"If I must have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice".

Yep. He's had multiple "origin" stories but none of them are canon (even the definitive, The Killing Joke) or turn out to be gags.
 
Yep. He's had multiple "origin" stories but none of them are canon (even the definitive, The Killing Joke) or turn out to be gags.

That's one of the best parts of Legder's performance: the different stories about how he got the scars. Either of them could be true. Or, more likely, neither. And it's possible the Joker himself doesn't know.
 
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Seriously though, what the fuck is DC doing?

You want a big cinematic universe, but none of it will be connected and you're gonna have multiple versions of the same character?! Why in the world would they expect that to be successful?!

They still fully plan on using Leto's Joker in SS2 and a future Joker/Harley Quinn movie, so why the fuck would you start another Joker project with a different actor?! So kids can have different versions of Joker to like? I mean seriously, who is thinking this shit up?

DCU is really, really being poorly managed in every way possible.

This is an origin movie that has nothing to do with the others. Honestly they've already proven they can't realy compete and make the big universe like marvel. That's cool make actual amazing award winning movies that are all unrelated rather than popcorn movies. This has potential to be better than pretty much all the marvel movies. (I've only seen like half but there are no oscar worthy ones i see). The only oscar worthy superhero movie was that 2nd batman with ledger imo.
 
Joaquin Phoenix is one of the best actors working in cinema. On the one hand, I have no idea why he would sign up for something that has clusterfuck written all over it and which will have the long shadow of Heath Ledger hanging over it. On the other hand, he is one of the few people who could actually step out of that shadow and pull this off.

Would have preferred to see him bring his talents to another role, though. DC/Marvel should be trying to create more villains with the stature of the Joker and Loki instead of just reusing those over and over again.

Would have loved to see Phoenix as Two Face, The Riddler or Scarecrow - he'd be perfect as any one of those, imo.
 
Yes for Dark DC.
Yes for Joaquin.

He did go full crazy for a few years a while ago. No idea why, but this could make for two things: superb acting, as expected, and him going permanently batshit crazy.
 
Over / under on when WB learns how dark this movie is and mandates a lighter tone and screws up the movie even more?
 
"I can't wait for the movie that finally gives us all the details about the Joker's origin!"

Said no one. Ever:rolleyes:
I can imagine all the DC board members in a meeting discussing how to imitate marvel's success, and one guy pitches the idea:

"How about we make a Joker origin's story?"

The rest of the members are like whoa that's a good idea! Good job! :eek:
 
That's one of the best parts of Legder's performance: the different stories about how he got the scars. Either of them could be true. Or, more likely, neither. And it's possible the Joker himself doesn't know.

It also plays into the beauty of when he gives batman his choices. You cant tell when he is lying or not, or setting you up. Its this level of unknown and difficult to track aspects of him that helped him become iconic, he is a detectives worst nightmare, similar to 7even.
 
My god DC is all over the place, while this could be good it’s going to be confusing with Letos Joker.
Yup.

OK so lets say Phoenix puts his own spin on the Joker and hits it out of the park. Does Leto try to mimic him in his next movie or go a completely different way?

How do fans who just loved Phoenix's performance then take Leto going a different way without being horrible confused and/or underwhelmed.

Imagine if the Avengers movie had come first and instead of using the ensemble characters they cast a new Iron Man and Thor and Cap, etc, in spin out stand alone movies but kept using the originals in the ensemble.

{<huh}

While it is possible to make a great stand alone movie in those scenarios it is not possible to create any continuity to build on that leads to a bigger picture.
 
I think JP is a fantastic actor. Not quite sure if his talent can overcome the clusterfuck that is the DCEU. This isn’t Wonder Woman, where not much was expected of it. This is a tent pole villain with a tent pole hero attached to it.

They better pay close attention to Venom. I think Venom is gonna be a flop.
 
Update: July 18, 2018

Todd Phillips' Standalone JOKER Movie Gets a October 4, 2019 Release Date


Director Todd Phillips' standalone Joker movie, starring Joaquin Phoenix, will hit theaters on Oct. 4, 2019, Warner Bros. and DC said late Wednesday afternoon.

The release date, and title, were revealed just as this year's edition of the ultimate fanboy gathering — Comic-Con — got underway in San Diego. Warners and DC will take the stage there on Saturday.

October 2019 boasts a slew of high-profile titles. Joker will open opposite Paramount's Gemini Man and Fox's The Woman in the Window, followed a week later by Dwayne Johnson and Disney's Jungle Cruise and fellow Warners title, The Goldfinch. And on Nov. 1, DC and Warners unfurl Wonder Woman 2.

Last month, Phoenix finalized his deal to star as the arch-nemesis of Batman. The studio describes Phillips' film as being an “exploration of a man disregarded by society [that] is not only a gritty character study, but also a broader cautionary tale.” Phillips and Scott Silver co-wrote the script.

The project's budget is in the $55 million range, significantly lower than the tentpoles that dominate the form. And the movie, set to begin production later this year, is meant to be darker and more experimental in tone and content (at least as experimental as a studio can be with established brands such as DC), which is described as being akin to a crime drama.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/joker-origin-pic-lands-fall-2019-release-date-1128203
 
Am I the only one that's excited about this? Martin Scorcese and Joaquin Phoenix doing a joker movie? Count me in.
 
Update: July 18, 2018

Todd Phillips' Standalone JOKER Movie Gets a October 4, 2019 Release Date


Director Todd Phillips' standalone Joker movie, starring Joaquin Phoenix, will hit theaters on Oct. 4, 2019, Warner Bros. and DC said late Wednesday afternoon.

The release date, and title, were revealed just as this year's edition of the ultimate fanboy gathering — Comic-Con — got underway in San Diego. Warners and DC will take the stage there on Saturday.

October 2019 boasts a slew of high-profile titles. Joker will open opposite Paramount's Gemini Man and Fox's The Woman in the Window, followed a week later by Dwayne Johnson and Disney's Jungle Cruise and fellow Warners title, The Goldfinch. And on Nov. 1, DC and Warners unfurl Wonder Woman 2.

Last month, Phoenix finalized his deal to star as the arch-nemesis of Batman. The studio describes Phillips' film as being an “exploration of a man disregarded by society [that] is not only a gritty character study, but also a broader cautionary tale.” Phillips and Scott Silver co-wrote the script.

The project's budget is in the $55 million range, significantly lower than the tentpoles that dominate the form. And the movie, set to begin production later this year, is meant to be darker and more experimental in tone and content (at least as experimental as a studio can be with established brands such as DC), which is described as being akin to a crime drama.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/joker-origin-pic-lands-fall-2019-release-date-1128203

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So is DCEU not connecting all their films I assume and just doing stand alones but those stand alones are just part of DC"EU" screen films?

Maybe WB is better off trying this route instead, just make good stand alone movies first and not think about connecting any of them?

What do you think?
 
Yeah i think this is the best way to go unless they choose to reboot.

Marvel has perfected the shared universe so it’ll be tough to create a competitive version of it. Focus on telling new and original independent stories that are worth watching. After a handful of those films maybe reintroduce a shared universe but as BvS and JL has shown it’s not something audiences are looking for.
 
Am I the only one that's excited about this? Martin Scorcese and Joaquin Phoenix doing a joker movie? Count me in.

Put it this way: I doubt you'll have much trouble getting tickets for an opening day showing:)
 
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