joining wrestling

I didn't say he was wrong. I don't disagree that the wrestling room at college simply is not the place to start the sport. Wrestling itself isn't different from BJJ or Judo or MMA. Like anything, it is about what you put into it. College teams are serious about training, so if you can't train like them then you shouldn't be there. It doesn't matter what the sport it, and it doesn't even have to be just at college.

But it shouldn't make anyone irritated. We have people aspiring to be on the Olympic team at our judo club, but we don't turn away the noobs either. There's room for both. I don't get angry at people for ignorance. After all, they are novices and can't be expected to know better. I may be frustrated, but never angry or insulted. I do get angry when people put others down. That's why he was an ass (and he knew it).

Exactly why I started my first post like I did. But, after these guys make these threads they might as well smack me in the face and spit on my shoes. They are basically insulting wrestling as a whole.

I feel this comment sums it up...

"If you wish to learn wrestling, then learn wrestling. It's that simple.

Be it at your school team or an outside club. The moves you find in wrestling are nothing complicated. They are fairly straightforward. College level wrestlers can do it better simply because they have been doing it for alot longer."

I bet a lot of newbies think this by watching videos or seeing MMA guys doing a sprawl or taking a sloppy shot. Then they think "wtf are they doing I can make a 10x better sprawl/takedown it isn't rocket science!!@#" Too bad it is rocket science...
 
cool, ive never played football before, but im joining my college football team today. i think i'll play quarterback.

you'd probably be better off at OT, don't let the coach's concerns about size dissuade you
 
you might not be "accepted" by the guys on the team cuz wrestlers are like family and ud be the step-child nobody likes
 
I wrestled ina college club for the first time in my freshman year (this past year) with only a years expierence in bjj. I took a beating. My record was 1-14 or something, and the kid I beat I outweighed by at least 10 pounds. But I came back to jiu jistu this summer and took a lot of the guys down. The guys at the club were close and I ended up making freinds with the wrestlers and am now considered one. YOu might not be able to take bjj and wrestling at the same time, its fucking hard, but youll learn. Good luck and just remember taking a beating is part of the game.
 
Damn, you are in the middle of nowhere.

But still, this one seems interesting, no?

KIRKSVILLE WRESTLING CLUB
21861 HACKBERRY TERR
KIRKSVILLE, MO 63501
Club Leader: MICHAEL GEORGE
Phone: 660-216-2862
Email: [email protected]

Here is a list of about 100 other wrestling clubs in Missouri. One of these has got to work for you....

http://www.themat.com/clubs.php?page=display_clubs&ClubState=mo


And if not, what about asking around your mma/jj club to see if anyone would be up for holding some wrestling seminars? You are in central Missouri near the Iowa border, there HAS to be a wrestler nearby of some quality who can put on some wrestling clinics for the other grapplers at your club.

Thanks. Thats the same site I went to but didn't see that one. I'll email that guy right away.
The guy who teaches BJJ at my shool club is a wrestler/judoka so I'll talk to him too about teaching me takedowns.

You're right about me being in the middle of nowhere. It pisses me off because the only boxing gym from here is hour and a half away. I should move
 
Enjoy it, wrestling is a tough but fun sport to do. Expect to get manhandled alot, especially in practice and before you ask, yes rubber arms is totally normal you will get used to it.
 
Enjoy it, wrestling is a tough but fun sport to do. Expect to get manhandled alot, especially in practice and before you ask, yes rubber arms is totally normal you will get used to it.

I really hope I get to train it. It looks fun and help my overall grappling game.

Would you say its harder than judo? Judo was really hard on my body so I didn't train it as often as BJJ. I'm mostly worried about injuries because when I see wrestling matches I can't believe those guys aren't riddled with injuries.
 
Hey, I'm also joining wrestling at my community college starting tomorrow and I've only wrestled in BJJ/submission wrestling (instructor's an ex wrestler)

Should I expect my teammates to basically dislike me because I've never wrestled? Also, a lot of you guys are saying how exclusive it is to just wrestlers, is community college different? Because I e-mailed the coach and told him my situation before I signed up, and I'm going to quote his e-mail right now.

"Don’t worry about never competing in wrestling prior to this. Look forward to seeing you Monday morning at the wrestling room"
 
By the way, how much do wrestling clubs charge? Are they usually around 100 bucks like most BJJ and judo places are?
 
By the way, how much do wrestling clubs charge? Are they usually around 100 bucks like most BJJ and judo places are?

I've never paid anything to train wrestling, but I believe most clubs charge like $75/year. At least in my area, but these are HS clubs.
 
I know if i was on the team, I would be very disrespected and put off by some random kid who thinks he is the next matt hughes trying to come in and pick up some wrestling for his game. If you legitimatley want to make the team and your practicing to try and make the team, at least show up in FANTASTIC shape, be able to keep up on the strength and conditioning and im sure people will be a little more willing to accept you. However, I am sure if you just show up with a gut and mma shorts on people are going to want to slam you on your head.
 
Hi. I am considering training with the wrestling team at my college and I have a few questions before I make the step. My school Div II. I don't know that makes a difference.

1. Are college wrestlers and coaches accepting of people training with them? I never wrestled before so highly doubt I would make the team.

2. I read in another thread that coaches and athletes won't really care about "outsiders" because they're too busy doing their own thing. Would I learn anything? I don't wanna do it if I'm gonna learn anything. I think this is the most important to me.

3. How hard is the training? I heard its hard but if its way too hard I'm not sure I can do it since I need the energy to train in BJJ and boxing as well.

4. How are wrestling sessions set up? is it like judo or BJJ where you warm up, the coach shows you a few techniques, you drill them with others, and then spar?

I'm gonna email the coach this week. Thanks


you should see if they have a club.


if you even want a chance of making that team with no prior experience you'd need to pretty much dedicate your life to it and it doesn't sound like your ready to do that. clubs will probably be more to your liking anyway.
 
By the way, how much do wrestling clubs charge? Are they usually around 100 bucks like most BJJ and judo places are?

if you attend a school they often have one free of charge. the school should do most of the funding
 
YOU SIR have obviously never wrestled. I have wrestled my entire life. Wrestling is NOT like jj where the more you practice the better you can master it. It is a brutal intense kind of exhaustion. I've done judo, karate, and dabbled in a couple submission grappling tourneys and done pretty well. In highschool i placed at one of the nations toughest tourneys (5 Counties in Fountain Valley Ranked on the top ten hardest tourneys) So i know what i'm talking about when i tell you that you saying wrestling moves aren't complicated is a full load of crap. I'm not trying to flame you.....only enlighten you. College wrestling is for others such as myself who have LIVED wrestling. In highschool kids would try to join there senior year and the only reason our coach let them is cuz he was too cheap to buy us a throwing dummy. I'm not trying to scare the poster i think if he's a grappler he could pick it up easy cuz i picked up BJJ pretty easy after highschool just know that it will be a different kind of tired then bjj. I would like for the poster to post after his first day to see if his experience will be like i expected.


YOU SIR are wrong in your assumptions.

I do wrestling and BJJ. I have only done BJJ for 3 months but I have wrestled competitively for 5 years now and was on the National Squat for my country for some time. This was before coaching politics/methods got the better of my temper.

This is where I train:http://www.boxingworks.com.au/

My wrestling coach was one of the top guys who trained Olympians in Russia. Go ahead. Read the info, you'll like it. He warned me about American arrogance and now I see what he means.

Now I am from Sydney, Australia so I competed under Freestyle rules. Over in the states you guys wrestle under Folkstyle I hear ? Not sure what the rule set is there but from what I am told it is not so much different.

Let's get one thing straight. Wrestling teaches you to take someone down and pin them. Yes you have to know about hip placement and movement but on the whole the sport is not as complicated and BJJ. Submissions are a whole new element. If he is capable of learning BJJ, then he is capable of learning wrestling. I do admit he may never become a serious competitor. But he still can learn, imporve and possibly be a challenge for others he trains with.

The same double leg takedown he uses is the same double leg takedown his College teammates will be using. His teammates are only better at it because they have been doing it for alot longer.

The same cross body thow he uses is the same cross body throw his College teammates will be using. His teammates are only better at it because they have been practicing it for longer and have more experiance using it in competition.

The same Near Side Craddle pin he uses is the same Near Side Cradle pin his college teammates will be using. Again, they are simply better at it because they have been practising for 2-3 hours per day for many years.

Learn the fundamentals, drill them and apply it in live wrestling. That's the key. Now if he is training with people better than him he will only improve alot faster. All is not lost. If he is in shape and has a good work ethic then he can make it. You would be surprised what someone can do when they have the right motivation. He propbabaly won't have time to do BJJ or MMA anymore. But if his committed and willing to train 6 days per week to wrestling then I say he can earn his place on the team.
 
YOU SIR are wrong in your assumptions.

I do wrestling and BJJ. I have only done BJJ for 3 months but I have wrestled competitively for 5 years now and was on the National Squat for my country for some time. This was before coaching politics/methods got the better of my temper.

This is where I train:http://www.boxingworks.com.au/

My wrestling coach was one of the top guys who trained Olympians in Russia. Go ahead. Read the info, you'll like it. He warned me about American arrogance and now I see what he means.

Now I am from Sydney, Australia so I competed under Freestyle rules. Over in the states you guys wrestle under Folkstyle I hear ? Not sure what the rule set is there but from what I am told it is not so much different.

Let's get one thing straight. Wrestling teaches you to take someone down and pin them. Yes you have to know about hip placement and movement but on the whole the sport is not as complicated and BJJ. Submissions are a whole new element. If he is capable of learning BJJ, then he is capable of learning wrestling. I do admit he may never become a serious competitor. But he still can learn, imporve and possibly be a challenge for others he trains with.

The same double leg takedown he uses is the same double leg takedown his College teammates will be using. His teammates are only better at it because they have been doing it for alot longer.

The same cross body thow he uses is the same cross body throw his College teammates will be using. His teammates are only better at it because they have been practicing it for longer and have more experiance using it in competition.

The same Near Side Craddle pin he uses is the same Near Side Cradle pin his college teammates will be using. Again, they are simply better at it because they have been practising for 2-3 hours per day for many years.

Learn the fundamentals, drill them and apply it in live wrestling. That's the key. Now if he is training with people better than him he will only improve alot faster. All is not lost. If he is in shape and has a good work ethic then he can make it. You would be surprised what someone can do when they have the right motivation. He propbabaly won't have time to do BJJ or MMA anymore. But if his committed and willing to train 6 days per week to wrestling then I say he can earn his place on the team.

You're a riot man, you still have no clue what you're talking about even though you typed a 10 minute post. I guess in your sense it is easy to learn wrestling, shitty wrestling.
 
Hey, I'm also joining wrestling at my community college starting tomorrow and I've only wrestled in BJJ/submission wrestling (instructor's an ex wrestler)

Should I expect my teammates to basically dislike me because I've never wrestled? Also, a lot of you guys are saying how exclusive it is to just wrestlers, is community college different? Because I e-mailed the coach and told him my situation before I signed up, and I'm going to quote his e-mail right now.

"Don
 
You're a riot man, you still have no clue what you're talking about even though you typed a 10 minute post. I guess in your sense it is easy to learn wrestling, shitty wrestling.

If you have nothing positive or worthwhile to say, then say nothing.
 
If you have nothing positive or worthwhile to say, then say nothing.

There is a fine line between being supportive and being realistic. Sorry dad I'll keep my negativity out of this. Thanks for knowing I'm right =)
 
Hi. I am considering training with the wrestling team at my college and I have a few questions before I make the step. My school Div II. I don't know that makes a difference.

1. Are college wrestlers and coaches accepting of people training with them? I never wrestled before so highly doubt I would make the team.

2. I read in another thread that coaches and athletes won't really care about "outsiders" because they're too busy doing their own thing. Would I learn anything? I don't wanna do it if I'm gonna learn anything. I think this is the most important to me.

3. How hard is the training? I heard its hard but if its way too hard I'm not sure I can do it since I need the energy to train in BJJ and boxing as well.

4. How are wrestling sessions set up? is it like judo or BJJ where you warm up, the coach shows you a few techniques, you drill them with others, and then spar?

I'm gonna email the coach this week. Thanks
Someone posted you are in Kirksville, MO, so I'm taking it you go to Truman State U.

1. It's a yes/no question; they are willing to let "outsiders" in the room but you have to remember this is a college sport & sporadically showing up isn't going to cut it unless you are a former wrestler at that school or stud from another U. Another thing is Title IX, many colleges are limited to the number of people they can have in the room, if you are in the room & a student then the NCAA considers you an athlete (that is another thing, you might have to be cleared through the NCAA clearinghouse to even be in the room) so some colleges regardless of how friendly the coach is just will not let you in the room.

2. As I said in my answer to #1, it is a college sport, they are there to compete and win. The athletes now the sport and at the college level what happens is their coaches refine their techniques, skill sets, improve their training habits. They don't go "okay, here is a standup, first do this, then this, then, etc.". The kids know a stand up, what they learn is subtle changes, setups, breaking of bad habits. There aren't new moves introduced at the college level; note this is not the same as getting wrestler A to do certain moves that he rarely did in college.

3. The training is very difficult & it doesn't start and stop with the practice sessions. The other wrestlers do a lot of training outside of the scheduled team practices: conditioning, strength training, extra drilling, etc. I don't see anyone practicing wrestling full time then boxing & doing bjj. To quote an olympic track coach after he watched a few Oklahoma U practices "wrestlers go through the toughest training I've ever seen except maybe pro boxers but they punch each other in the head so I don't really count them."

4. Practice sessions vary with the coaches and change throughout the season. Again it is competition so the practices are geared to get you ready for that and the end of the season: conference & national tournaments.

In general you warm up, coach goes over a few things--maybe moves he sees people making mistakes on, he pulls from situations in an earlier match, moves upcoming opponents use. Then drill whatever that is.

Then a lot of drilling. A lot of coaches have the wrestlers break off into pairs & drill takedowns, then rides, turns, escapes/reversals, etc. At the college level it tends to be specialized per wrestler unlike high school. For example, a lot of high school coaches go "each of you shoot 30 double legs". In college its "takedowns for X minutes". Then the coaches go around and do their job.

then live wrestling. Now some colleges the drilling & live wrestling roll into one & sometimes it is basically just going live and the coaches go around and make adjustments, they might have wrestlers A & B drill a specific position, move, counter.

And generally practices end with some conditioning drills: sprint/jog on the mats, push ups, sit ups, up downs, etc.
 
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