Joe Schilling sucker punching drunk guy

[MGS]

Yeah he's a douchebag. That's not a one off for him, I think 2 years ago there was a guy in his gym pleasuring himself with toys, in the women bathroom, and the guy had clear mental problems ( Joe said it himself ) but he beat the shit out of him eventhough he never showed resistance nor aggression. So I'm not surprised by his behavior here. Big chip on his shoulder. At this point he's seeking trouble just to release his pent up emotions.

 

[JR478]

That's really fucked.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

You have to prove he was a threat. Not the other way around. That's how positive evidence works, but you're not intelligent enough that's why you feel so threatened. I understand why everything is threatening to you now. It must be hard being in a world where you don't understand what's happening half the time.

Go read all posts here before commenting on my intelligence ...

The situation has aggression coming mostly from one side ..the drunk guy...

Turning around after someone yells HEY isnt aggressive its responding so you dont get attacked from behind..

The guy was incoherently drunk and stumbles into joe...

Joe correct hims out of his way with a normal hand on arm/shoulder move that weve all done when someone bumps into your walking lane..


Joe is walking away and gets yelled at..

Joe turns around with his hands by his side and open..

Dude proceeds to yell and flinch/flex or prepare a punch or throw a punch( unproven)...

Joe reacts and throws a strike that lands first and puts him out..

Could joe have done something different yea..have other people done differently yes ...

Could the guy not be a stumbling drunk ...yes..

Could the guy have chosen better words then HEY after bumping into someone...yes..

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Joe Schilling was the one colliding with the little guy, not the other way around. Schilling was walking up from behind and shoving him out of the way instead of acting like a civilized human.

tbf, guy was swaying. He just happened to sway the same way Joe was coming, just as he got there, so I get Joe being like 'hit,' or 'bumped' in his mind. Problem is, a reasonable person should just sorta excuse that, knowing you were behind them and they couldn't see ya, so you know there's no intention, and if he's drunk, you know there's little control even if he did see ya.

On the flip, no idea how Joe's demeanor was that day either. He also could have just thought it was a reasonable shove, but was also tensed, pissed, and frustrated for a number of reasons and overreacted. This seems like this is an event that could go to trial or an event that the two people could squash later, both in the right of mind. But what it definitely isn't is an event for 50 sherdoggers to go "Yeah, fuck em up Joe! Shoulda done some of dat hurr durr good ol ground n pound too!"

 

[Sanserif]

This is what I saw too...and I watched it a bunch of times to make sure.

First, there is no reason Joe would turn around, unless the guy said something. Second, when Joe got closer, you can clearly see that the guy made some kind of movement, like a weird fake lunge to make Joe flinch...except Joe isn't going to flinch from some poser at a bar and dropped him.

Not flinching at a poseur does not equate to u necessarily hitting the guy. They are two different reactions. Shilling could have just stood there and not reacted instead of hitting the poseur which no matter how annoying he is,doesn't deserve getting his block knocked off.

 

[lsa]

I have never heard someone be described as "unsecure"...do you mean "Insecure"..?

Drunk guys at bar, big or small are dangerous. You pretending he was a teddy bear looking for a hug is adorable.

That guy could hit him in the face with a beer bottle, he could stab him with a pocket knife, he could pull a gun and shoot him. A drunk man was acting aggressive and Joe put an end to the aggression.

Congrats on finding a spelling mistake.

Did the guy have a beer bottle in his hand?
No...
So why are you making up a lot of things that did NOT happen?
What about what ACTUALLY happened?

And you are claiming this little dude is some monster that was endangering Joes life..
I think the guy is a lot closer to a cuddly guy that the monster you try to make him out to be.

I get it drunk people in bars no matter size or shape scares you.
And its even worse if they dance awkwardly and are happy.
We should be thankful Joe got out alive. I mean it was close.
If it had been you they probably would be washing of all the blood of the floor from that monster killing you with a bottle /knife/ bare hands/ huge cock... or what ever he might be holding in his pants.

 

[kflo]

He thrusted his chest forward, raised his arms and stepped forward to throw a punch. That's all I see.

lol.....it's hilarious you're actually pretending he was about to throw a punch at joe.....

 

[Ramon Antonio]

Go read all posts here before commenting on my intelligence ...

The situation has aggression coming mostly from one side ..the drunk guy...

Turning around after someone yells HEY isnt aggressive its responding so you dont get attacked from behind..

The guy was incoherently drunk and stumbles into joe...

Joe correct hims out of his way with a normal hand on arm/shoulder move that weve all done when someone bumps into your walking lane..


Joe is walking away and gets yelled at..

Joe turns around with his hands by his side and open..

Dude proceeds to yell and flinch/flex or prepare a punch or throw a punch( unproven)...

Joe reacts and throws a strike that lands first and puts him out..

Could joe have done something different yea..have other people done differently yes ...

Could the guy not be a stumbling drunk ...yes..

Could the guy have chosen better words then HEY after bumping into someone...yes..

Yeah that unproven part is a pretty significant gap in your story line LOL.

 

[B ville Famous]

Joe as a pro fighter shouldn’t be fighting outside of the ring but this is the perfect example of an idiot drunk that thinks he can intimidate someone assuming the person can’t fight.
Now the real question is, why was this all on video? Why was the camera person recording this guy?

 

[dogsdonutsdragons]

This is more a matter of there is a problem with spending all your time training to beat other men down. The ego , the attitude. The split second reactions are not normal. It breeds aggression and violence inside and outside of the sport . But everyone tunes in. We all encourage it . Fighting is low iq that’s why they are paid the least. They are conditioned to be violent this can always be triggered outside of the cage. People who understand physiology and things like that will tell you spending all your time training to fight is negative and can easily result in situations like this. Joe could have killed that guy or given him serious brain damage .

 

[Sanserif]

Go read all posts here before commenting on my intelligence ...

The situation has aggression coming mostly from one side ..the drunk guy...

Turning around after someone yells HEY isnt aggressive its responding so you dont get attacked from behind..

The guy was incoherently drunk and stumbles into joe...

Joe correct hims out of his way with a normal hand on arm/shoulder move that weve all done when someone bumps into your walking lane..


Joe is walking away and gets yelled at..

Joe turns around with his hands by his side and open..

Dude proceeds to yell and flinch/flex or prepare a punch or throw a punch( unproven)...

Joe reacts and throws a strike that lands first and puts him out..

Could joe have done something different yea..have other people done differently yes ...

Could the guy not be a stumbling drunk ...yes..

Could the guy have chosen better words then HEY after bumping into someone...yes..

The video doesn't show the guy bumping into schilling. It shows schilling deliberately walk up to the man's back and pish him out of his way. You are making excuses for schilling...

 

[PlayTheGame]

Lol that was nice.

Wouldn’t be a big deal in my home country unless the guy suffered severe life-altering brain damage or shit like that. And that’s how it should be: two guys willingly got into a scuffle, one of them won, end of story. Trying to sue a guy who whipped your ass fair and square is an ultimate bitch move IMO.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Yeah that unproven part is a pretty significant gap in your story line LOL.

Thus why i said self defense cases are hard with lots of gray area now didnt i??

But question my intelligence some more bud...

 

[Paolo Delutis]

The video doesn't show the guy bumping into schilling. It shows schilling deliberately walk up to the man's back and pidh him out of his way. You are making excuses for schilling...

What????...its a hallway between the booths and bar and the guy stumbles into it...

Nice try..schilling was walking by

 

[lostdog000]

based on the short video, pro fighter joe pushed a drunk, non threatening dad, to provoke him, then knocked him out


no way to defend joe here

 

[nostradumbass]

Where the fuck did i say id whimpeR?..

LOL i wouldnt be asshole drunk to begin with..i dont get drunk like this in public

I guess if buddy stabbed joe ..it would be okay cuz hes just a drunk office guy right?

Or hit him a bottle or something...joe being the fighter and the other gguy being asshole drunk should be left alone..

This is the type of mentality where people say dumb shit like i didnt mean it i was drunk...when confronted about fucking around on there partner...

You decided to drink that level and shit happened

Where did you say that?

He should say sorry not HEY

I would move her out of my way...and if she said hey!... id turn around and say watch where the fucking ur falling you drunk ass...and leave

First you denied that he did move the guy out of his way, then said you would do it a girl trying to dance and then start yelling and swearing at her if she objected.

Yeah, drinking and dancing at a bar is unacceptable behavior that should get you knocked out by a pro fighter. Who would ever expect to see people drinking and dancing at a bar?

 

[lsa]

tbf, guy was swaying. He just happened to sway the same way Joe was coming, just as he got there, so I get Joe being like 'hit,' or 'bumped' in his mind. Problem is, a reasonable person should just sorta excuse that, knowing you were behind them and they couldn't see ya, so you know there's no intention, and if he's drunk, you know there's little control even if he did see ya.

On the flip, no idea how Joe's demeanor was that day either. He also could have just thought it was a reasonable shove, but was also tensed, pissed, and frustrated for a number of reasons and overreacted. This seems like this is an event that could go to trial or an event that the two people could squash later, both in the right of mind. But what it definitely isn't is an event for 50 sherdoggers to go "Yeah, fuck em up Joe! Shoulda done some of dat hurr durr good ol ground n pound too!"

Well Joe later posted the video (IG took it down) claimed self defence and that it was a life threatening experience...
So no matter his demeanour or state of mind he later thought he did the right thing so even when calmed down and away from the situation..... yeah dude a nut case

 

[AldoStillGoat]

if im all over the floor and obstructing other people then yeah i probably should get moved to the side .

i would have said " my bad" and ended it there ..

but of course im hammered acting like an idiot anyways so why not tell the guy hey buddy watch out ( even tho it was me in the way).

and then Id proceed to tell him what bitch he was and when he got closer Id flex or throw a punch even.

next id be wondering why am i seeing shoes

him being hammered and doing something stupid does not mean he deserves to get KO’d only physically restrained

 

[FIRESTARTER]

No one else notice the semi the drunk dude was sporting after groping the waitress, maybe that's why Joe felt "threatened"?

 

[Sanserif]

This is more a matter of there is a problem with spending all your time training to beat other men down. The ego , the attitude. The split second reactions are not normal. It breeds aggression and violence inside and outside of the sport . But everyone tunes in. We all encourage it . Fighting is low iq that’s why they are paid the least. They are conditioned to be violent this can always be triggered outside of the cage. People who understand physiology and things like that will tell you spending all your time training to fight is negative and can easily result in situations like this. Joe could have killed that guy or given him serious brain damage .

Actually I find it's the opposite. The more we train the more self controlled ad stronger in will and discipline we ought to become. That is one of the biggest benefits of training martial arts and martial sports.

The problem is with some people is they bring their ego into it and seek to afirm their self regard based on how good they are martially and they tend to be bullies.