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A lot of roidheads have a shit diet and walk around at 18-25% BF and rationalise it saying they are in a bulk phase. A lot don't have the diet, genetics, and discipline that Romero does.
Go look at Lorenzo Fertitta.
I've seen tons of average guys take roids, casually weight lift and look ridiculous in such a short time span.
While having good enough endurance to go five rounds of MMA against someone of roughly equal skills?
Most people would have to lose significant muscle mass to get the endurance to last for 25 minutes of MMA.
If you mean just look like Yoel but without Yoel's endurance, then yes, that's fairly easily attainable. But that's not what we're looking at with Yoel.
Joe is wrong again.
He must not be familiar with the transformation of skinny Aussie kid Zyzz:
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Oh and lol at TS believing Romeroids being 'all natural'.
If Brazil is rife with roids, what do you think Cuba is dealing in?
Yoel and Tim Means are 2 off the top of my head who had USADA do what I described and were cleared because the same supplement they went out and purchased was also tainted.
Usually it is just a hail Mary by a cheater.
Also the supplement industry is shady and doesn't face enough fda scrutiny.
Lots if cases of tainted supps with designer steroids over the years.
I once used a pre workout powder called Craze. Turned out it was one molecule changed from being meth. The endurance and euphoria from it was insane
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/meth-substance-found-craze-workout-supplement-report/story?id=20572095
Meth-Like Substance Found in 'Craze' Workout Supplement: Report
There's no evidence to support him using during his time with the UFC under USADA. It's entirely possible that he has been using before that, but there is no evidence. There are more factors than just usage as well, such as diet, training, etc. Also him being Cuban doesn't really factor into it, imo. Rogan is a smart dude but far from credible, especially when it comes to UFC matters.
diet and train my ass. If hes never done roids, then its all about genetics.
No matter how hard you train and how good your diet is, regular joe, hell 99% of the population of the world will never look like him.
Relative to the average guy who doesn't visit the gym much, yeah , maybe.
Yoel looks awesome. Great conditioning. Big chest and esp massive legs. But Rogan said the average guy on roids can never look like Yoel. I personally have seen and know bigger guys than Yoel.
What is exactly considered average tho? A guy who gets off the coach and sticks a needle in him without working out? Or if you walk into a gym and you see a guy whose big.
Totally disagree with Joe there, having followed the sport of Bodybuilding for years, divisions are stacked full of men who wouldn't be as naturally gifted as Yoel but look far better physique wise as they are taking PED's. Take one look at current Physique Olympia Jeremy Buendia or current Classic Physique Olympia Breon Ansley and you tell me im wrong. Even if you go to local shows, Yoel wouldn't place first in these divisions.
Many many many many many....many bodybuilders look much better than Yoel.
Retard Rogan just has a huge crush on Yoel and always wants to hype someone as Once in ever.
Bisping and Dan Kelly couldn't be recreational bodybuilders and be juiced to the gills at 225lbs?
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/threadHe outta know
Joe is wrong again.
He must not be familiar with the transformation of skinny Aussie kid Zyzz:
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Oh and lol at TS believing Romeroids being 'all natural'.
If Brazil is rife with roids, what do you think Cuba is dealing in?
Despite being skinny Zyzz has great genetics for bodybuilding due to his Aesthetics (a term he essentially popularised). Just because you roid as much as zyzz doesn’t mean you will look anywhere as good as him. Unless you share his symmetrical abs, broad clavicle, full wide and thick pecks etc you won’t look a thing like that, and the average joe doesn’t (less wide clavicle, shittier pecs, uneven abs, etc).
ZYZZ had god tier genetics. Much better than his own older brother, Chestbrah.
But yeah you can have some shitty genetics and if you eat and train decently you will no doubt look much better on cycle. For every ZYZZ theres 10,000 gym rats running the same compounds with gyno/saggy chest, chicken legs, and bad insertions, etc.
You can roid a ton but its your genetics thats going to determine how well you're going to look and perform as well as how your own body utilizes it.
Most people on cycle look like shit compared to a much smaller, natty athlete with better genetics.
Remember trying this before and legit feeling like Im rolling on Ecstasy, while sweating up a storm and never getting tired in the gym. The endurance level from Craze was legit on Cardarine level. I never knew until I read your post lol. That shit was legit bonkers, I loved it.