Jim Jeffries bit on gun control.

[AgonyandIrony]

One of his most notorious bits. He makes some hilarious points, you should definitely watch to the end.

And for those people absolutely livid, here's one bit I'm sure you will all love unless you're some SJW feminist.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

Well, it's a comedy sketch and he's wrong on his stats. Gun homicide rate was already on the decline decades prior to the post 96 gun legislation in australia. Gun crime went down, but it also went down in the US, event though we went the opposite route and expanded on gun rights.

Australia graph

This is our graph. And ours has a much more drastic decline in gun fatalities. Overall crime rate has plummeted, except for minority-rich cities.

 

[oldshadow]

If you try and get "facts" from a comedian on a subject like gun control you are not hitting on much especially from a foreign one that has his facts wrong and no idea what he is talking about.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Well, it's a comedy sketch and he's wrong on his stats. Gun homicide rate was already on the decline decades prior to the post 96 gun legislation in australia. Gun crime went down, but it also went down in the US, event though we went the opposite route and expanded on gun rights.

Australia graph

This is our graph. And ours has a much more drastic decline in gun fatalities. Overall crime rate has plummeted, except for minority-rich cities.

What stats did he quote and which part? One of my favorite points he makes is how laughable the "home protection" argument from some people.

Also isn't it a bit dishonest to cite privately owned firearms? Since almost every gun owner I know owns more than one. It's not uncommon around here to have 10+ easily. If we factor in sports shooters that number is kind of misleading.

Truthfully for gun ownership now is probably the best time. Sure the price of an SKS has gone up from $100 to $450-500 for a matching Yugo (sadly sold my Yugo years ago.)

But quite frankly the market is saturated with so much cool shit and if you follow armslist, J&g, classicfirearms (my favorite), and countless other websites you'll find an incredible selection for great prices. I really wish I picked up that AK pistol deal with two drum mags for $400 a few years back.

Also where did he say anything about crimes increasing or decreasing? Did you listen to the bit about trying to get into the safe to get your gun? (4:09 into the first video. Listen to it again. I think it's a valid point)
Or about when someone broke into his house while he was naked and held a machete to his neck? (true story)
Or the fact that he brings up the fact you're more likely to use the gun on yourself?


You must admit he presents a much better argument, than the dumbfucks posting stupid shit on Facebook.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

If you try and get "facts" from a comedian on a subject like gun control you are not hitting on much especially from a foreign one that has his facts wrong and no idea what he is talking about.

"If you don't like it go home if you don't like it go home"
"My answer to that is. No. I came here legally, I pay my taxes I can say whatever the fuck I want."

Did you actually listen to it? You're making a rather broad statement. Which facts did he get wrong?

Besides, don't we often turn to comedians for hard topics? The likes of Carlin, Maher, Dennis Miller, Lewis Black. Humor is the greatest unifier and comics are often on the forefront in the defense of free speech. Something that's under assault right now.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

What stats did he quote and which part? One of my favorite points he makes is how laughable the "home protection" argument from some people.

Also isn't it a bit dishonest to cite privately owned firearms? Since almost every gun owner I know owns more than one. It's not uncommon around here to have 10+ easily. If we factor in sports shooters that number is kind of misleading.

Truthfully for gun ownership now is probably the best time. Sure the price of an SKS has gone up from $100 to $450-500 for a matching Yugo (sadly sold my Yugo years ago.)

But quite frankly the market is saturated with so much cool shit and if you follow armslist, J&g, classicfirearms (my favorite), and countless other websites you'll find an incredible selection for great prices. I really wish I picked up that AK pistol deal with two drum mags for $400 a few years back.

Also where did he say anything about crimes increasing or decreasing? Did you listen to the bit about trying to get into the safe to get your gun? (4:09 into the first video. Listen to it again. I think it's a valid point)
Or about when someone broke into his house while he was naked and held a machete to his neck? (true story)
Or the fact that he brings up the fact you're more likely to use the gun on yourself?


You must admit he presents a much better argument, than the dumbfucks posting stupid shit on Facebook.

He's being "holier than thou" comparing Australia to the US. The fact that you're more likely to use the gun on yourself is a dishonest one.

Here, watch this:




Also, what they fail to mention is that they have more guns in Australia now than ever before

 

[TheFirstEMP]

If only Australia could have Mexico, Central and South America attached to it. I'm sure things would be a little different.

 

[oldshadow]

"If you don't like it go home if you don't like it go home"
"My answer to that is. No. I came here legally, I pay my taxes I can say whatever the fuck I want."

Did you actually listen to it? You're making a rather broad statement. Which facts did he get wrong?

Besides, don't we often turn to comedians for hard topics? The likes of Carlin, Maher, Dennis Miller, Lewis Black. Humor is the greatest unifier and comics are often on the forefront in the defense of free speech. Something that's under assault right now.

Yes I have see this before and yes he has a right to say whatever he wants and I have a right to say what I want.

He's "facts" are shit and his point is weaker but hey people have the right to be ass holes if they want.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

He's being "holier than thou" comparing Australia to the US. The fact that you're more likely to use the gun on yourself is a dishonest one.

Here, watch this:




Also, what they fail to mention is that they have more guns in Australia now than ever before

Dont some research into firearm ownership in Australia.

A Firearms Licence is the most common type of licence within Queensland. It allows possession and use of single shot/manual repeating rifles and shotguns (Category A & B) most commonly for:

• Sports or Target shooting
• Recreational shooting
• Primary Production; and
• other occupational reasons.

Semi-automatic rifles and shotguns (Category C & D) may also be possessed under a Firearms Licence for some genuine reasons, however sufficient evidence must be provided to justify the need to possess such firearms.

https://www.police.qld.gov.au/progr...enceApplication/licences/firearms/default.htm

An interesting think to look at is the restrictions under the Cat A and B.
https://www.police.qld.gov.au/progr...Application/weapons/categories/categories.htm

The fact that you're more likely to use a gun on yourself is dishonest? Good sir that argument is something that I and many conservatives use when discussing the overblown gun death statistic.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...o-thirds-scary-gun-death-statistics-suicides/

As to home defense. I believe it's super important to run clearing drills through your home. I encourage most anti gun people to go to the range, and I think most people should be educated about proper firearm handling. Range time is important. I am not a supporter of this constitutional carry we have here in Oklahoma. I'm a big fan of in depth training of firearm safety and plenty of range time to be issued a ccw permit.

I did really enjoy his bit about how when he tells Americans about people breaking into his house and holding a machete to his neck they say "I bet you wish you had a gun on you" "Well.. I was naked at the time.. So I didn't have my holster on me."

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Yes I have see this before and yes he has a right to say whatever he wants and I have a right to say what I want.

He's "facts" are shit and his point is weaker but hey people have the right to be ass holes if they want.

So what's an argument for gun control that you understand? His point about gun owners talking about home safety and being responsible and keeping their guns in a safe is a pretty valid point.

Here this will make you like him at least lol. Him talking on about why it's okay to be a bigot and the time he got punched on stage because he told a girl heckling him "I'm going to leave you alone like your dad did" and her date punched him in the face. They show him getting hit in this video.

 

[Cid]

He's being "holier than thou" comparing Australia to the US. The fact that you're more likely to use the gun on yourself is a dishonest one.

Here, watch this:




Also, what they fail to mention is that they have more guns in Australia now than ever before

We have more guns than in 1996?

Wonder if that has anything to do with the 50% population increase.

 

[oldshadow]

You don't keep your gun in a safe if you are there to control it if you want to have it ready to use.

Guns are used 1.5 to 2.5 million time a year in self-defense and most of the time it is never fired so his "facts" are off.

 

[My Spot]

You don't keep your gun in a safe if you are there to control it if you want to have it ready to use.

Guns are used 1.5 to 2.5 million time a year in self-defense and most of the time it is never fired so his "facts" are off.

You're telling me a gun controll is ignorant and misinformed? I'm SHOCKED.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

You don't keep your gun in a safe if you are there to control it if you want to have it ready to use.

Guns are used 1.5 to 2.5 million time a year in self-defense and most of the time it is never fired so his "facts" are off.

The joke was about people having guns in their safe for home protection. Or those people that hide the mag elsewhere in the house.

http://www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2250568

At least 265 children did so in 2015 alone, according to some estimates, and some gun control advocates and gun instructors alike say not enough is being done to prevent these deaths. Both groups say more effort needs to be expended by parents to make sure guns are locked up and out of reach, while gun instructors say more needs to be done to train kids about gun safety, including potentially teaching the subject in public schools.

By the end of 2015, about 265 children under 18 picked up a firearm and shot someone by accident, and 83 of those shootings were fatal, according to research compiled by the gun control group Everytown for Gun Safety. Some 41 of those deaths involved the shooters themselves, and most of the shootings involved toddlers or teens who were playing recklessly with the guns.

An interesting discussion here concerning firearm storage inside the house.

 

[KILL KILL]

Well, it's a comedy sketch and he's wrong on his stats. Gun homicide rate was already on the decline decades prior to the post 96 gun legislation in australia. Gun crime went down, but it also went down in the US, event though we went the opposite route and expanded on gun rights.

Australia graph

This is our graph. And ours has a much more drastic decline in gun fatalities. Overall crime rate has plummeted, except for minority-rich cities.

I am pro gun,but your graph is incredibly misleading. Not only has the number of homicides gone down, but the homicide rate has dropped quite a bit as well.

You didn't take into account the increase in population.

When the population increases dramatically, and overall number of murders remains about the same, that means the murder rate decreased.

Over the past 18 years (1 July 1989 to 30 June 2007), the rate* of homicide incidents decreased from 1.9 in 1990-91 and 1992-93 to the second-lowest recorded rate, of 1.3, in 2006-07.*rate per 100,000 population.

http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html

The figure shows that although there have been fluctuations from year to year, the number of homicide incidents has shown a steady decline since the inception of the NHMP in 1989. 2006-07 saw the second-lowest number of homicide incidents in the collection period.

Source:AICNational Homicide Monitoring Program 1989-90 to 2006-07

http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html

 

[oldshadow]

The joke was about people having guns in their safe for home protection. Or those people that hide the mag elsewhere in the house.

http://www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2250568

An interesting discussion here concerning firearm storage inside the house.

I agree that you responsible for the safety of any weapon you own.

 

[HereticBD]

In short, I love the bit. Seriously, JJ is awesome. One of the greatest comedians performing today.

That said, it's an inaccurate assessment.

Love the bit, though. How could you not? It's brilliant.

 

[WorldofWarcraft]

I am pro gun,but your graph is incredibly misleading. Not only has the number of homicides gone down, but the homicide rate has dropped quite a bit as well.

You didn't take into account the increase in population.

When the population increases dramatically, and overall number of murders remains about the same, that means the murder rate decreased.


http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html

http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html

Homicide rates dropped, but they pretty much dropped in every country in the world, including the US. The talking point I've heard so much from Obama himself and the left is that gun homicides in Australia went down after the 1996 mandatory gun buy-back, but what they don't mention is the same effect that the US also received, despite gun rights being broadened. Assault Weapons Ban expired and concealed carry has spread like wildfire, state after state.

Homicide rates and overall crime rates dropped because people spend more time inside than outside. Videogames, Cable TV, and now the internet can be thanked for that. Some people may argue that lead reduction in water supplies is the main reason, but if I'm a betting man, I place it mainly on the previous point that I made.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

What needs to be understood about this performance, is that comedian Jim Jefferies was a victim of a violent crime.

When someone becomes victimized they usually take one of two paths mentally:

"What could I have possibly done to prevent this?"

Or

"There is nothing I could have done to prevent this."

The first is an obvious and healthy reaction, the second reaction is an unhealthy externalizing, making a very personal encounter seem as though it's just a "force of nature".

In this instance, comedian Jim Jefferies doesn't want to accept the fact that there were measures he could have taken to prevent this incident. Rather than accept an uncomfortable truth, he's decided to justify his victimhood to himself so he won't have to experience the sort of anxiety that leads to real change in one's life.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

I agree that you responsible for the safety of any weapon you own.

In my early twenties, I left my loaded AK just laying by my couch most the time. Took it to my bedroom every night too, never had a round racked though. When I have children, I'll probably keep my firearms in a safe outside of a handgun, and I really find the fingerprint technology to be a good safety mechanism if you have children.

That's one thing I always found crazy, is the people who lock their guns up at home that they intend to use for home protection. I only want to chamber a round and flick the safety off if I hear my door kicked in.

Not to mention a proper light ( I like strobes) for home defense are ideal.

In short, I love the bit. Seriously, JJ is awesome. One of the greatest comedians performing today.

That said, it's an inaccurate assessment.

Love the bit, though. How could you not? It's brilliant.

That's the sign of a great comic, someone that can make you laugh about stuff you disagree with.