Jamahal Hill vs Jiri Prochazka

[ferrisjso]

Jiri s longer reach and crazy pressure plus natural strength would be a nigthmare for rakic s pillow fists and glass jaw
Hill on the other hand has the accuracy boxing and ko power to clip him and finish the job

I feel sherdog puts too much stock in boxing and a large segment of this community came over from boxing. Jones is the GOAT and he has pillow fists. GSP's striking game wasn't great so much as he was fighting in a division where most fighters were one dimensional wrestlers. Guys like Machida and AS had power but they were also very technically sound and Machida was being called boring at the same time he was making a KO highlight reel.

Don't get me wrong striking is needed to finish fights and lack of striking can seriously hold back A athletes like Davis but lack of boxing doesn't mean lack of striking. Even at HW if a fighter can consistantly survive the first round or two and has cardio it's not really neccessary. MT has historically been the most useful offensive martial art. Also by what logic does Rakic have a glass jaw when he's never been finished and all his opponents(since 2019 when he fought Manuwa and got in top 10 territory) have been good strikers? Smith isn't an elite fighter IMO but even he has heavy hands.

Jiri's got 2 inches on Rakic and they are same height. During the Jones era getting within 5 inches was considered close fighters were regularly giving up 10 inches reachwise. I will say Rakic has never fought an elite 6 ft 4 guy before but I don't think he relys on this to close a talent gap the way somelike like Forrest did.

 

[alex21cms]

I feel sherdog puts too much stock in boxing and a large segment of this community came over from boxing. Jones is the GOAT and he has pillow fists. GSP's striking game wasn't great so much as he was fighting in a division where most fighters were one dimensional wrestlers. Guys like Machida and AS had power but they were also very technically sound and Machida was being called boring at the same time he was making a KO highlight reel.

Don't get me wrong striking is needed to finish fights and lack of striking can seriously hold back A athletes like Davis but lack of boxing doesn't mean lack of striking. Even at HW if a fighter can consistantly survive the first round or two and has cardio it's not really neccessary. MT has historically been the most useful offensive martial art. Also by what logic does Rakic have a glass jaw when he's never been finished and all his opponents(since 2019 when he fought Manuwa and got in top 10 territory) have been good strikers? Smith isn't an elite fighter IMO but even he has heavy hands.

by the logic pillow fisted david clarck dropped him 2 times smith didn t land anything significant on him and he had a huge reach adventage over santos who btw seems to have loose all of his KO power guy couldn t even drop walker

 

[NationWideNinja]

Id favor him over Jiri. Hes a guy with long arms who knows how to use his reach, speed, power, and accuracy. If Jiri tries his typical hands low and tank all the shots approach he gets his lights shut off real early against Hill.

Hills long arms with speed and power combo reminds me a bit of RJJ.

 

[HHJ]

Jiri by Hellbowlolicopter

 

[ferrisjso]

by the logic pillow fisted david clarck dropped him 2 times smith didn t land anything significant on him and he had a huge reach adventage over santos who btw seems to have loose all of his KO power guy couldn t even drop walker

That was a long time ago pretty early in Rakic's career. Losses to far inferior fighters who'd have no chance against them later on are common for prospects. Since then he has not been dropped and has fought Manuwa, Santos, Smith and Volkan. Not saying he's got an unusually great chin or anything but getting caught happens.

 

[alex21cms]

That was a long time ago pretty early in Rakic's career. Losses to far inferior fighters who'd have no chance against them later on are common for prospects. Since then he has not been dropped and has fought Manuwa, Santos, Smith and Volkan. Not saying he's got an unusually great chin or anything but getting caught happens.

because he has a significant reach adventage over all those guys not the case with Hill who out reaches him and has better boxing

 

[ferrisjso]

because he has a significant reach adventage over all those guys not the case with Hill who out reaches him and has better boxing

Jiri has 1 inch on Hill who has 1 inch on Rakic. Rakic had 2 inches on Thiago Santos and Smith. It's 1 inch more we're talking. These guys are all 6 ft 4 too. It's literally nothing compared to the 6 inches(back then it was thought to be 9 the measuring people had Gus at 76) between Jones and Gus that was being advertised as "closing the gap". These guys are all basically the same size.

Manuwa is short for LHW nowadays but unlike say DC he has long arms relative to his body and actually has a slightly longer reach than Rakic. Back in the day I think at one point he had the second longest reach at LHW except Jones. I remember Davis had that title early on with 79 and Manuwas got 79.5 according to wiki. OSP got to the UFC later I think.

 

[alex21cms]

Jiri has 1 inch on Hill who has 1 inch on Rakic. Rakic had 2 inches on Thiago Santos and Smith. It's 1 inch more we're talking. These guys are all 6 ft 4 too. It's literally nothing compared to the 6 inches(back then it was thought to be 9 the measuring people had Gus at 76) between Jones and Gus that was being advertised as "closing the gap". These guys are all basically the same size.

Manuwa is short for LHW nowadays but unlike say DC he has long arms relative to his body and actually has a slightly longer reach than Rakic. Back in the day I think at one point he had the second longest reach at LHW except Jones. I remember Davis had that title early on with 79 and Manuwas got 79.5 according to wiki. OSP got to the UFC later I think.

manuwa also had 40 years old and a glass jaw and was coming of multiple ko losses when rakic fougth him mate styles make figths and Gus has a 79 arm reach

 

[omawho402]

Ankalaev is being overlooked something FIERCE at LHW

 

[ferrisjso]

manuwa also had 40 years old and a glass jaw and was coming of multiple ko losses when rakic fougth him mate styles make figths and Gus has a 79 arm reach

Manuwa has a glass jaw true he's also a KO artist who fights like he's at HW. 40 isn't the barrier it is in other sports. Manuwa was never the best but he KO'd Corey Anderson whose arguably the best LHW today and beat Jan too and was considered better than Jan for most of their careers.

Anyway Santos and Smith didn't knock him down either and the Clark fight alone shouldn't be held against him in terms of having a glass jaw or not.

 

[ferrisjso]

Ankalaev is being overlooked something FIERCE at LHW

Yeah he's right up there with Rakic and Jiri. Given the way he dominated Krylov he's an elite LHW. But I also think Krylov's underrated af(he almost beat Glover) others won't take that win as seriously. People are holding losses from Krlovs early and mid 20s against him and I feel people wrote him off from ever improving.

Between them and Corey and Nemkov in Bellator we really don't know who the best LHW is. I think Nemkov has the worst case given his size but all of them could be the best. Hill would just add a sixth wheel to what is going to be a fascinating era in this division.

 

[Rapa]

Jiri would destroy him
Brutal KO

 

[alex21cms]

Manuwa has a glass jaw true he's also a KO artist who fights like he's at HW. 40 isn't the barrier it is in other sports. Manuwa was never the best but he KO'd Corey Anderson whose arguably the best LHW today and beat Jan too and was considered better than Jan for most of their careers.

Anyway Santos and Smith didn't knock him down either and the Clark fight alone shouldn't be held against him in terms of having a glass jaw or not.

40 isn t a barrier c mon the only reason Glover is champ at 40 is for how shit is the division this days no one in their rigth mind would pick a older version of a figther over a younger one

 

[ferrisjso]

40 isn t a barrier c mon the only reason Glover is champ at 40 is for how shit is the division this days no one in their rigth mind would pick a older version of a figther over a younger one

Glover was a gatekeeper 6-7 years ago age isn't the reason Glover's lucky to be champ it's everyone who could beat him(5-6 people in Jones, Gus, DC,Rumble, Davis and Bader) left the division and he was left on top when the new talent rose through the ranks. Him being 40 has nothing to do with him not being the best LHW, he's mostly as good as he used to be, the new talents just bigger and better. He won the belt by beating someone he was ranked above for 95% of his career.

Saying 40 isn't a barrier assumes someone's skills are still the best. If Glover's skills ever were close to the best it was back in the 2000s.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Would be a killer fight. I’d prolly lean toward Hill

Lmfao based on what?

 

[alex21cms]

Glover was a gatekeeper 6-7 years ago age isn't the reason Glover's lucky to be champ it's everyone who could beat him(5-6 people in Jones, Gus, DC,Rumble, Davis and Bader) left the division and he was left on top when the new talent rose through the ranks. Him being 40 has nothing to do with him not being the best LHW, he's mostly as good as he used to be, the new talents just bigger and better. He won the belt by beating someone he was ranked above for 95% of his career.

Saying 40 isn't a barrier assumes someone's skills are still the best. If Glover's skills ever were close to the best it was back in the 2000s.

Glover and Rakic had fougth the last 2 oponents on comon and Glover looked way more dominant hell he leave Smith toothless and not even like that Rakic could finish him Jan destroyes Reyes and Glover destroyed him and as mutch as i love Jiri he s the rigth punch away from getting slept as for Ankalaev he bearly wins boring decisions against mid tier figthers

 

[JonJonesNeedle]

I think he should fight Johnny Walker Next

 

[PPVpoints]

Jiri having a granite chin is false. Reyes KO'd Jiri, and the small LHW King Mo put Jiri face down ass up with a vicious KO.

Hill vs Jiri would be a good battle and Jiri probably gets sparked.

 

[alex21cms]

Jiri having a granite chin is false. Reyes KO'd Jiri, and the small LHW King Mo put Jiri face down ass up with a vicious KO.

Hill vs Jiri would be a good battle and Jiri probably gets sparked.

you don t take Volkan s punches in the chin and don t go to sleep if you don t have a Iron chin

 

[JSN]

he matches up with Jiri better than anyone you listed. Jiri is reckless his entire career which I love.
This fight isn’t happening anytime soon but would be a great fight.
And hill could do well in a fight against Jiri just due to the style.

Well said I think on paper Hill is actually a pretty bad matchup for Jiri stylistically. I think the question is more can Hill earn his way up the that stature of fight than would be win it right now.