Media Jake Paul Training with Team USA Olympic Boxing team

[AstralPanda]

Cool video. You can't fake dedication into and love for a sport. You're either in 100% or not.

Jake went straight to the pros, but he has 4 years of competitive. He's basically an amateur.

If he wasn't famous, we'd likely see him go through this same process.

So it's kind of an interesting dynamic.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

He's trained with them before over at the OTC in Colorado Springs. Josh Edwards probably gave him some good work in sparring. Jake has all the resources available. Hopefully he ditches the whole spectacle gimmick and starts fighting real opposition (actual active boxers that don't suck).

 

[ryun253]

Dedication + all the money to do what you enjoy, living the life!

 

[AstralPanda]

He's trained with them before over at the OTC in Colorado Springs. Josh Edwards probably gave him some good work in sparring. Jake has all the resources available. Hopefully he ditches the whole spectacle gimmick and starts fighting real opposition (actual active boxers that don't suck).

He could. It's obviously not a skill issue.

I think there's just a lot invested in putting on these events against names that will sell tickets and ppvs.

If he fought guys around his level, amateur to early pro, all of a sudden the business dries up and there's no more money being made.

At the same time, he's not good enough to be challenging the actual sellable names in boxing.

All comes down to business really

After Tyson, Tommy Fury seems like the fight to make though.

 

[SuperLuigi]

He could. It's obviously not a skill issue.

I think there's just a lot invested in putting on these events against names that will sell tickets and ppvs.

If he fought guys around his level, amateur to early pro, all of a sudden the business dries up and there's no more money being made.

At the same time, he's not good enough to be challenging the actual sellable names in boxing.

All comes down to business really

After Tyson, Tommy Fury seems like the fight to make though.

He did make it financially work to fight two boxer guys, Im hoping he goes back to that route but with some guys a step above Borland and August. I know he wont jump right to fighting killers but maybe some top 100 guys.

 

[Mujeriego]

He's trained with them before over at the OTC in Colorado Springs. Josh Edwards probably gave him some good work in sparring. Jake has all the resources available. Hopefully he ditches the whole spectacle gimmick and starts fighting real opposition (actual active boxers that don't suck).

Nobody would watch and he'd lose to some guy no ones ever heard of.

 

[AstralPanda]

Nobody would watch and he'd lose to some guy no ones ever heard of.

That's 99% of boxing

In your mind, is someone only good if they're known and at the top of the food chain?

Most amateur and Olympic boxers are fighting and losing to guys nobody has ever heard of? Does that mean they suck and have no potential?

It's about how good they could be, not where they are.

That's how you know someone has never actually done it. There's no respect for the levels.

 

[ringking1982]

Inspirational.

 

[StopDucking]

That's 99% of boxing

In your mind, is someone only good if they're known and at the top of the food chain?

Most amateur and Olympic boxers are fighting and losing to guys nobody has ever heard of? Does that mean they suck and have no potential?

It's about how good they could be, not where they are.

That's how you know someone has never actually done it. There's no respect for the levels.

He’s saying those guys nobody has ever heard of are actually very good and Jake Paul would get his ass kicked if he fought them.

He wasn’t dissing Olympics boxers, he was complimenting them.

 

[AstralPanda]

He’s saying those guys nobody has ever heard of are actually very good and Jake Paul would get his ass kicked if he fought them.

He wasn’t dissing Olympics boxers, he was complimenting them.

I think Jake is actually very good for an amateur. Most importantly I think he has legitimate potential If he stays disciplined to the sport.

I've watched a fair amount of cruiserweight / HW fights. I don't think he's too far away at all.

He could hang, and his power is the great equalizer as well.

 

[Pizza Werewolf]

I'm surprised it wasn't the special Olympics team.

 

[StopDucking]

I think Jake is actually very good for an amateur. Most importantly I think he has legitimate potential If he stays disciplined to the sport.

I've watched a fair amount of cruiserweight / HW fights. I don't think he's too far away at all.

He could hang, and his power is the great equalizer as well.

I’ve honestly never seen an Olympics boxer Jake Paul could beat.

If he stays disciplined, he might be able to win Bronze at the 2028 Hawaii Golden Gloves or something. That’s about it.

 

[that Indian]

I've been saying this for awhile:

Yes, Jake Paul is getting by on his celebrity rather than his skills, yes he is fighting carefully selected opposition, yes he gets blown out of the water by anyone within sniffing distance of title contention.

BUT, you can't knock his mental strength, dedication and innate athleticism. What he is doing requires a combination of those qualities, in greater measure than 99.9% of people have. What other boxer-influencer has had nearly the same level of success? I deeply respect it. Also, Paul knows his place. He is not delusional to be calling out legit fighters let alone guys like Breidis and Opetaia.

I don't expect him to take on legitimate challenges, because I don't view him as a legitimate fighter--and never will--but as a celebrity-fighter, he brings eyes to the sport and is invigorating careers (see Amanda Serrano).

 

[AstralPanda]

I’ve honestly never seen an Olympics boxer Jake Paul could beat.

If he stays disciplined, he might be able to win Bronze at the 2028 Hawaii Golden Gloves or something. That’s about it.

I've watched a lot of cruiserweight/ HW matches in the Olympics, world's.

Probably the weakest those divisions have ever been, would be pretty easy to see him at that level of competition.

He's also only been competing for 4 years, most of those guys have a lot more experience than him.

People just need to remove his name from the equation. Forget his name is Jake Paul and there will be more realism when it comes to where he stands.

Only people I've seen break him down properly are more experienced guys that just treat him like every other boxer.

He's much better than he gets credit for.

 

[AstralPanda]

I've been saying this for awhile:

Yes, Jake Paul is getting by on his celebrity rather than his skills, yes he is fighting carefully selected opposition, yes he gets blown out of the water by anyone within sniffing distance of title contention.

BUT, you can't knock his mental strength, dedication and innate athleticism. What he is doing requires a combination of those qualities, in greater measure than 99.9% of people have. What other boxer-influencer has had nearly the same level of success? I deeply respect it. Also, Paul knows his place. He is not delusional to be calling out legit fighters nor does he have any pretensions to be fighting guys like Breidis and Opetaia.

I don't expect him to take on legitimate challenges, because I don't view him as a legitimate fighter--and never will--but as a celebrity-fighter, he brings eyes to the sport and is invigorating careers (see Amanda Serrano).

Fury was a legitimate challenge. They tried to book it right after Woodley, when he was only 2 years into his career. Hasim Rahman Jr came shortly after that.

By all accounts, those were pretty early, risky fights to be taking.

So, I'm not convinced he doesn't want to take on legitimate challenges.

It just comes down to business. There's a lot invested in Jake from a promotional POV.

If he were to fight guys at his level of experience, amateur to early pro, his events would stop making money. None of them have any name value.

He's also not good enough to fight guys with names who are capable of playing the B side of an promotion.

If he keeps improving and staying dedicated though, I wouldn't rule it out. Given that he only has 4 years of competitive, there's a lot of room to grow.

The most money he can possibly make is if he somehow gets to a higher level in boxing and is actually able to take on legitimate guys. That's where the real paydays are.

Business wise, it's the best move for his career for him to try and get there, if he can.

Pro careers are often built up like this as well. It's not as if any of the past or present faces of boxing were taking on tough contenders for their first 15-20 fights.

It's a record padding sport.