Izzy looked bad...

[SCTwins]

I hate this place.

 

[drbolony]

Verorri doesn't get enough credit because his game is simple, that said he doesn't really put himself in bad positions and he can take a lot of damage. What he lacks in offensive flash, he makes up for with positional soundness. Verorri himself isn't a high level striker, but he trains with some of them, and because of this he has good vision, kick defense, understand of range etc. Not an easy guy to finish.

I hate this place.

me three

 

[GUY]

Somebody didn't read my actual post. One of the first things I said was "He won the fight comfortably", but there's zero doubt in my mind he should have finished Vettori. When others pressured Izzy, they got countered to pieces, yet he wasn't having much luck here. And Vettori is known for his wrestling and grind, not his technical striking

costa and whitaker were coming after him looking for the finish and leaving themselves way more open. Vettori was just jabbing and setting up the TD.

 

[DoNoootin]

Reading into it too much imo. Maybe he wasn't as motivated for this fight or just didn't go for the kill for whatever reason. I don't fault him. You can't have an amazing performance every fight. Now if the next two or three fights look the same I might say he's lost something. For now though he took an easy win against a guy that should have been an easy win. Meh.

That ass in your avvy >>>>>

 

[Substance Abuse]

Verorri doesn't get enough credit because his game is simple, that said he doesn't really put himself in bad positions and he can take a lot of damage. What he lacks in offensive flash, he makes up for with positional soundness. Verorri himself isn't a high level striker, but he trains with some of them, and because of this he has good vision, kick defense, understand of range etc. Not an easy guy to finish.

me three

Exactly. Most posters here don't understand nuance. Not everyone is going to get knocked out at that level. Vettori can apply consistent pressure without putting himself in horrible positions. Izzy took what his feints and speed gave him. He fought masterfully honestly. His TDD at 185 is stellar as well.

 

[textwarrior]

First off, most certainly not a hater. I've been swinging from Izzy's nuts since he got in the UFC, but I also know how to be objective.

He won the fight comfortably, but Vettori was about tailor made for a highlight reel win. A solid wrestler, but not able to really utilize it effectively against Izzy, which left us with a serviceable, but not great, striker with questionable fight IQ. He was running straight in, and yet Adesanya struggled to find solid connection with any of his shots. Sure, he landed a lot of leg kicks and several jabs, but struggled to put together effective combinations or land anything with real power to the head or body. I think Bobby or Costa would put away Vettori in short order.

I'm not sure if Vettori's defense is way better than I realize, or if izzy is starting to slow down a hair, or maybe he's just fighting down to his opponents level ala Jon Jones, but what I am sure about is that wasn't the same Adesanya that toasted Costa and Whittaker.

Sometimes fighter perform well and sometimes they don't.

 

[stacrafty]

Somebody didn't read my actual post. One of the first things I said was "He won the fight comfortably", but there's zero doubt in my mind he should have finished Vettori. When others pressured Izzy, they got countered to pieces, yet he wasn't having much luck here. And Vettori is known for his wrestling and grind, not his technical striking

I'm confused cause you said you watched the fight.

Izzy was hitting low kicks and later going for ? kick or high kicks. Marvin was happy to eat low kicks all night and instead just guard against high kicks. You should have seen him block 5 high kicks at least if you watched.

Also Marvin was doing a good job of moving and parrying izzy's punch combos. You watch when Izzy throws the combo with the lunging uppercut - marvin would always move off center. So Izzy started to add in a low kick to the end of it.

Give Marvin credit he was decent defensively + solid chin means no KO

 

[The Legendary Scarface]

Who knows. It could be a combination of things.
Maybe since the KG fight and eating that first round bomb by Romero he realized he doesn't want to risk brain damage anymore so he's super careful not to get clipped and only throws powerful punches when he knows for sure he can't get countered. Maybe he fell in love with that question mark kick and really wanted a ko with it like someone mentioned earlier. Maybe Vettoris defense is better than we're all giving him credit for.
I personally think it's because he was against the cage for most of the fight which forces you to box in the pocket and that's not really something Izzy is good at yet so he just got away from the lunging Marvin by circling out, resetting and maintaining that distance while chopping the leg.

It is what it is

 

[welcometohavoc]

We saw this happen with Anderson periodically as well. On paper he could easily finish Maia and Leites but he just fucked around and played air guitar the whole time. He was also just casually outpointing Cote until Cote blew his knee out.

I dont think you can compare it to Anderson's fights with Maia/Leites. Anderson was never in trouble in either of those fights.

Vettori actually had Izzy's back and landed decent shots on the feet.

Like OP said, he just looked very beatable

 

[Arrrrgh]

"Izzy looked bad"

when he 50-45'd a guy who was ranked 3 and riding a 5 fight win streak...

???

 

[Simple Southerner]

I think he's fighting down to his opponents level

 

[15089371]

Based on movement and technique that would be the case but Israel by decision seemed to be the most likely outcome. His lack in technical ability and awareness and bit of delusion is compensated in his toughness. Dude's never been finished and I don't see other other 185'er finishing him. That being said I do think Israel missed some chances to real strike him clean, but I don't think it would've changed the outcome and or made it a 'bad' performance. Lets see some other 185 trying win "comfortable" against him.

 

[Iroh]

His buddeh got killed just recently, his focus could probably have been better.

 

[Raoh God and Conqueror]

Marvin just beat Hermansson and Holland two very, very good fighters and doesn't get put away at all easily. Izzy picked him apart but couldn't connect with the big right hand which he whiffed on numerous times due to Marvin slipping it.

 

[spinitch]

Vettori did all right it was largely a stalemate with Izzy landing a little more and stuffed TDs got some elbows in and also got up before Vettori could not do much with his TDs. Izzy tried to matrix Vettori but missed too. Good defense looks like a bad fight but half empty view vs half full. Rankings unchanged. Izzy fought careful made sure he got a win but not anything more. Much better fight than Romero thanks to Vettori at least trying but missed similar outcome.

 

[sampuncher]

Izzy started fighting dirty eye poke and nut shot. Bad fight

Eye poke was completely accidental, even if they deducted points for both which would have been ridiculously harsh, he'd still have won the fight. Says a lot.

 

[Deleted member 428241]

Didn't look like a championship-match.

 

[stacrafty]

His buddeh got killed just recently, his focus could probably have been better.

ckb is pretty tight and this guy was one of the boys, one of their main training partners. one of 4 brothers at the gym - I know 2 of them personally.
I never met the guy who was killed but it was pretty fn sad, so must have been weighing heavy on Izzy's and all team CKB's mind.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Vettori is an MMA generalist who favors grappling. He doesn't have wrestling background (like college D1 or D2 in the U.S., Dagestanian, Iranian, etc.) and he's not even a highly-regarded BJJ or judoka. He's a good fighter but not the kind of "wrestler test" that a prime Weidman or Chael would be.

Pretty much this. I think he loses to Whittaker, Costa, Cannonier and Gastelum could go either way.

 

[corrupted]

While he didn’t look amazing. It would be hard for me to say he looked bad. He wasn’t ever under any threat and cruised.

That piracy may one day bite him in the ass. But it didn’t look like it was gonna happen yesterday