Media Izzy explains his erratic post fight antics

Then he can use pretty different words that have pretty different meanings. But that seems to be a pretty consistent problem for him
I don't think you've seen/heard any of his statements other than the very first one which he clarified what he meant he was never talking about race. No one gave shit to Leon Edwards for being proud to be the first UK fighter that won the belt while training and living in the UK. If that's fine for Edwards then it's fine for DDP to be proud to be the first African that lives in Africa to maybe get the belt. Can you imagine if Bisping brought up that DNA shit about Edwards everybody would fucking rake him over coals for being a racist.

Izzy and a lot of other people are missing the forest for the trees.
 
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What a world we live in. Racism is more condemned than ever yet here we are having people defending literal racists.

Israel said DIRECTLY that Dricus cannot be a real African like him because he's white. That is PRECISELY what the whole DNA test comment was about. By all definitions (especially by leftist/woke standards) that is 100% a racist statement. If Bisping went at Leon with this same narrative he'd be DESTROYED as a racist and never have a career in anything anymore.
 
I don't think you've seen/heard any of his statements other than the very first one which he clarified what he meant he was never talking about race. No one gave shit to Leon Edwards for being proud to be the first UK fighter that won the belt while training and living in the UK. If that's fine for Edwards then it's fine for DDP to be proud to be the first African that lives in Africa to maybe get the belt. Can you imagine if Bisping brought up that DNA shit about Edwards everybody would fucking rake him over coals for being a racist.

Izzy and a lot of other people are missing the forest for the trees.
I have seen/heard others because I literally addressed that multiple times. Phrase A has a meaning, Phrase B has a different meaning. He wants to use the meaning of Phrase B, but he wants to use Phrase A, so he attaches these qualifiers until it means Phrase B. But the qualifiers are ridiculous because Phrase B already exists. That's why I said exactly what I said. He continually uses those qualifiers and was misrepresented multiple times by MMA media, so the fault is not all his, but if he wants to mean he would be the first champ residing in Africa, fighting out of Africa, or even first product solely from or representing Africa, then those are the things he means. But he chose a different phrase that doesn't mean that and just continually adds on like T&C text (under these specific conditions that actually mean an entirely different idea).

The Bisping Edwards comparison is meaningless. Edwards actually did say first British Champion, and Bisping DID comment that he said that incorrect statement, but just respectfully bowed out and wanted to give Leon his moment. Now, is somehow being less respectful than Bisping a problem for Izzy? Of course. But Edwards was wrong then too, but Bisping didn't get up in arms about him being wrong, and there's no historical context of a larger governmental suppression/division of race or systematic oppression, so the intangibles don't match either. I've already stated the difference between European and African identity, and trying to compare them again is just silly, so I'm not gonna even dignify that one, but yeah, it would be racist to suggest Edwards isn't British because he came from Jamaica, but if we were to compare him to Izzy: Edwards also reps his Jamaican flag since he was born there, and I've heard plenty of people here complaining about that as well. Not to the extent they do with Izzy, but people still raise a fuss about nationality there too.
 
I have seen/heard others because I literally addressed that multiple times. Phrase A has a meaning, Phrase B has a different meaning. He wants to use the meaning of Phrase B, but he wants to use Phrase A, so he attaches these qualifiers until it means Phrase B. But the qualifiers are ridiculous because Phrase B already exists. That's why I said exactly what I said. He continually uses those qualifiers and was misrepresented multiple times by MMA media, so the fault is not all his, but if he wants to mean he would be the first champ residing in Africa, fighting out of Africa, or even first product solely from or representing Africa, then those are the things he means. But he chose a different phrase that doesn't mean that and just continually adds on like T&C text (under these specific conditions that actually mean an entirely different idea).

The Bisping Edwards comparison is meaningless. Edwards actually did say first British Champion, and Bisping DID comment that he said that incorrect statement, but just respectfully bowed out and wanted to give Leon his moment. Now, is somehow being less respectful than Bisping a problem for Izzy? Of course. But Edwards was wrong then too, but Bisping didn't get up in arms about him being wrong, and there's no historical context of a larger governmental suppression/division of race or systematic oppression, so the intangibles don't match either. I've already stated the difference between European and African identity, and trying to compare them again is just silly, so I'm not gonna even dignify that one, but yeah, it would be racist to suggest Edwards isn't British because he came from Jamaica, but if we were to compare him to Izzy: Edwards also reps his Jamaican flag since he was born there, and I've heard plenty of people here complaining about that as well. Not to the extent they do with Izzy, but people still raise a fuss about nationality there too.
You're focusing on semantics when he has clarified what he meant. Missing the Forest for the trees. I don't know why you are purposefully choosing not to understand what he meant cause his original wording wasn't the best, he has clarified what he meant, but you're ignoring that for some reason.

The Edwards/Bisping situation isnt meaningless, Edwards misspoke as well but Bisping chose not to purposefully misunderstand what he said and didn't make it racial unlike Izzy, it's almost the exact same situation. Bisping realized that Edwards misspoke and Edwards clarified that he meant first UK champ that won the belt while living and training in UK just like DDP clarified his comments stating that he meant pretty much the same thing that Edwards did.
 
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Imagine if someone takes credit for being from your hometown just because he was born there, but has moved away since childhood and has zero intention whatsoever to live there or even stay 3 months of the year there.


"I'm from here, but I don't live here because it's not so nice. I live somewhere nicer. But you my people"


Like DDP says proudly - He was born in Africa, he grew up in Africa, and he lives in Africa. FACTS
 
DDP's family is of French descent, not Dutch. How does the Dutch colonization of SA matter?

Spain colonized much of the Americas. Lionel Messi's ancestors were Spanish. Is he not South American?
Way too much nuance for this crowd.
I used Alexa Grasso somewhere else as an example. By the definitions some are using, Grasso can’t be Mexican, because she appears to have no indigenous Mexican ancestry based on her appearance.
Reading Americans comment about who and what is native <KhabibBS>

everywhere you look, it is almost ENTIRELY Americans making a big deal about what DDP said. A few Canadians like Helwani and Bronsteter, but Canadians barely even count as human ;)
 
What a world we live in. Racism is more condemned than ever yet here we are having people defending literal racists.

Israel said DIRECTLY that Dricus cannot be a real African like him because he's white. That is PRECISELY what the whole DNA test comment was about. By all definitions (especially by leftist/woke standards) that is 100% a racist statement. If Bisping went at Leon with this same narrative he'd be DESTROYED as a racist and never have a career in anything anymore.
That's NOT directly saying Dricus can't be African. It's just directly saying that Israel is the real African champ. Something Dricus said that he wasn't.

But ultimately everyone, as in the fans, are blowing this our of proportion. I guess that means both Africans are doing a great job with this feud.
 
That's NOT directly saying Dricus can't be African. It's just directly saying that Israel is the real African champ. Something Dricus said that he wasn't.

But ultimately everyone, as in the fans, are blowing this our of proportion. I guess that means both Africans are doing a great job with this feud.
Lol no it's not. Israel's been on several platforms reiterating exactly what he meant.

I think he got so triggered over this because Dricus is right in a regard - Israel isn't African anymore, and cannot be a true African champ.

Kamaru also got triggered over this.

But Ngannou? Seemed like he could honestly care less. I honestly think it's because he thinks it's no big deal.
 
He's selling a fight...like it or hate it, he's trying to build this into as much money as possible
 
I want Google Bard or OpenAI to study and analyze race discussions on Sherdog lol

Would be so interesting to hear that summary.
 
Lol no it's not. Israel's been on several platforms reiterating exactly what he meant.

I think he got so triggered over this because Dricus is right in a regard - Israel isn't African anymore, and cannot be a true African champ.

Kamaru also got triggered over this.

But Ngannou? Seemed like he could honestly care less. I honestly think it's because he thinks it's no big deal.
Kamaru was a little triggered because he was the first African champ. They also are in divisions close to each other but not likely to fight.

Francis hasn't shown much response but Francis is not only in a weight class far above, he's now also in a different promise. No chance of them fighting.

Israel on the other hand ran with this because he knows Dricus was a potential rival and money big fight.

It's easy to see why he had the biggest response.
Let's put it this way. Colby Covington has called out Adesanya a few times but you never hear Israel respond as the fight has little chance of happening.
 
Kamaru was a little triggered because he was the first African champ. They also are in divisions close to each other but not likely to fight.

Francis hasn't shown much response but Francis is not only in a weight class far above, he's now also in a different promise. No chance of them fighting.

Israel on the other hand ran with this because he knows Dricus was a potential rival and money big fight.

It's easy to see why he had the biggest response.
Let's put it this way. Colby Covington has called out Adesanya a few times but you never hear Israel respond as the fight has little chance of happening.
I get the feeling Ngannou also understood what he meant even though DDP worded it poorly at first like the Edwards and Bisping situation. All 4 of them(Ngannou, DDP, Usman and Izzy) were born in Africa but only DDP is a product of the African MMA scene. Usman got his skills in America, Izzy in New Zealand and Ngannou in France/America.
 
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