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Izzy > Alex as an MMA fighter

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Izzy wins:

Periera
Cannonier
Whittaker x2
Vettori x2
Costa
Romero
Gastelum
Silva
Tavares
Brunson

Alex wins:

Izzy
Strickland
Blachowicz
Jiri x2
Hill

How the hell are you guys throwing words around like GOAT or saying that Alex’s run in the UFC is better and that he eclipsed Izzy? If that’s the case then Conor is the GOAT too cause he won two titles.

Alex is taller and has a wider frame than Izzy so yeah I’m not impressed that he’s able to bully Izzy in a fight… and yet he still got knocked out last time they fought. But in terms of resume, Izzy has the way harder strength of schedule and defended his title for longer in a much tougher division. Alex is not a better fighter, he’s just bigger than Izzy and his run in the UFC hasn’t been better than Izzy’s just because he was able to win two titles as opposed to one. LHW is weak and the title has been passed around like a hot potato.

Put your hate of Izzy aside and look at the facts. Shaman.

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What is Izzy's record at LHW? Are we MMA mathing? Who beat Blachowicz and who didn't?

It’s not MMA math. Izzy is factually a smaller fight than Alex. It makes sense that Alex would be able to move up and fight bigger fighters and hold onto his advantages.

Btw people say that Jan won that fight against Alex
 
Can mods disable the ability for people with yellow cards from starting threads?

No, they can’t. Yellow cards don’t mean that you can’t present a rational take or start a meaningful discussion. If you have nothing meaningful to add or a counterpoint to my argument you can leave the thread.
 
lol Izzy had some snooze fests and close decisions go his way, got shut down by Strickland, stopped by Alex, decisioned by Jan?

You’re also counting the ghost of Anderson Silva on his resume as a top win?
 
League of his own based on 7 notable fights? lol

And people wonder why I’m a hater. You guys meat ride fighters without looking at the facts.
The facts are his UFC tenure is limited but has been spectacular. I was hoping Jiri would win FYI, and I am certainly no rider.... Alex is in a league of his own, like a Hendo or Conor. Not divisionally great but great in their own way

Lets see if your monkey brain can comprehend this
 
It’s not MMA math. Izzy is factually a smaller fight than Alex. It makes sense that Alex would be able to move up and fight bigger fighters and hold onto his advantages.

Btw people say that Jan won that fight against Alex

If anything, dude was a weight bully at MW and Izzy isn't. Which makes what Izzy did at MW more impressive, than what Pereira did. Not to mention Izzy didn't get protected like Alex has been.
 
The facts are his UFC tenure is limited but has been spectacular. I was hoping Jiri would win FYI, and I am certainly no rider.... Alex is in a league of his own, like a Hendo or Conor. Not divisionally great but great in their own way

Lets see if your monkey brain can comprehend this

He is an electric fighter and he deserves praise for the way he finishes fights but he has not eclipsed Izzy in any other fashion. Maybe to the casuals and the little kids on tik tok who repeat Chama like little dorks but to fans who look objectively at their work, Izzy is still on top and Alex has a long way to go.
 
If anything, dude was a weight bully at MW and Izzy isn't. Which makes what Ixzy did at MW more impressive, than what Pereira did. Not to mention Izzy didn't get protected like Alex had been.

Facts. Alex may be good at cutting weight for his frame but that doesn’t make him better than Izzy. If he was better he should have stayed in the MW division and fought other contenders.

In what world does the UFC give a rematch to a UFC fighter who just got knocked out for the title?

They never gave a title shot to Aldo after he got knocked out by Conor, why should Izzy have to appease these dorks who chant shaman?
 
He is an electric fighter and he deserves praise for the way he finishes fights but he has not eclipsed Izzy in any other fashion. Maybe to the casuals and the little kids on tik tok who repeat Chama like little dorks but to fans who look objectively at their work, Izzy is still on top and Alex has a long way to go.
Two division champ, which israel failed at? Ironically beating the guy at LHW that Israel lost to hahaha
 
Well, I think Izzy is done and Alex isn’t, so this point will not age great. That said, Izzy’s resume is stronger on paper, but in reality he looked less impressive in many fights than his score suggests. Whittaker 2 was too close. Cannonier and Vettori were stinkers. Yoel wasn’t even a fight, what on earth was that anyway? His fight against Strickland was mind boggling to me. Please realise I am a fan of Adesanya (inside the cage, at least) and hope he can upset DDP, but at this point I am not convinced he has it in him anymore. Alex, on the other hand, is in that rare spot when a champion starts defending, makes it look easy and seems invincible. It is a mental, confidence thing.
Izzy - DDP and Alex - Ank will answer a lot of questions and I can’t wait. Izzy - Alex at LHW with both guys holding belts would be a fight for the ages.
 
MMA math guys: Alex > Strickland > Izzy.

Alex has better winning percentage in UFC title bouts.

Izzy hiding at MW. Alex confirming HW.
 
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