I've noticed something about sports fans and steroids.

[DorianGray]

So with MMA and Boxing.... we know that most of them are on it.


1:30

there's just so many instances where fighters are talking on the subject and all signs point to most fighters use steroids.


When I have a conversation on steroids and the NBA or NFL or MLB with people, they dont believe they're on Steroids. I think its because they dont follow MMA or Boxing. USADA basically revealed the truth about athletes.

There is hardly ever a failed drug test in the NBA or NFL or MLB. They dont have USADA. Fighters are using roids to get an edge in a sport that pays the average fighter 40k on average.

Professional athletes make millions of fking dollars, in sports where they dont do random drug test, if any tests at all. How you gonna tell me people arent going to try and gain every advantage they can get to make millions of dollars to play the sport they love. OF COURSE they will. I dont even blame them. At least everyone is using it and its an even playing field.

But MMA is a different story. There are the very few fighters that dont use it, against the roiders who get a big advantage and can potentially kill someone and the roids might be the difference.might aswell give the dude a gun. I say fuck it, just put em in jail if they fail a drug test (or a ban for life). The punishment needs to be more severe to ensure fighters dont do it.

When policies fail to achieve their goals it's often time to rethink those policies rather than simply make punishments harsher.

 

[Mr.Maelstrom]

The more important question is why would anybody who enjoys sports be against athletes (who are entertainers) using the best medicine and technology that is available to stay healthy and continue to perform at a professional level?

Amen

 

[tasticles]

Didn't know that, my Dr never said anything except that my test results were really low. The exact word he used was "wow". I could tell It was crazy low because the urge was all but gone. But no, he acted like it was completely safe. I'm gonna ask him during my next appointment here shortly and let you know what he says. I'm 45 and he's been my Dr all my life.

Cool, let me know. Father time will come for me too and want to make good decisions.

 

[VitorBelfoTRT]

I think theres more clean guys than dirty guys.. if theres some new technology out there that these guys are using why are millionaire superstars like Jon Jones, Canelo, and Lesnar getting caught more than the Joe Blows of combat sports? Wouldn't they be able to afford literally scientists? I mean sure, maybe some will get away with it but USADA will catch em either way. As for non-combat sports steroid users, its whatever, cause them taking peds doesn't put someone's mental health at danger.

 

[fzoid4454]

You mean baseball? Where you hit a ball with a stick and run around in a circle. Yes really manly sport lol...

Actually it’s a couple dozen people, the participants, standing or sitting 99% of the time, waiting for a guy to throw the ball so the other one can swing at it. And then a few of them run throw or catch during that other 1% of the time.

 

[Poirierfan]

Cool, let me know. Father time will come for me too and want to make good decisions.

I will, I don't believe your friends correct though. That might have been what they use to say, but every family Dr will prescribe it now If you're low on testosterone. I can't imagine virtually every one prescribing testosterone if it gave people cancer, you know what I mean? lol

 

[cmw43]

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/anti-doping/testing

It's basically just for show. They barely test. Only one player has ever failed in the premier league for PED's, you don't think its a sham?

90% of the tests are just urine samples and you're probably only going to get tested once per season.

You don't think the biggest sport in the world with millions on the line has PED use?

Professor Ivan Waddington - an expert in drugs in sport - says there is "clear evidence" both performance-enhancing and recreational drugs are used in the English game.

Waddington, co-author of the academic paper 'Drug use in English professional football' - published by the British Journal of Sports Medicine, was involved in a study carried out by the BBC in 2003 which indicated more than 150 players were likely to be using performance-enhancing drugs.

Former player Curtis Woodhouse said:

“At one of the clubs I played for, the gaffa used to come in the dressing room and say the drug squad are in today, if you’re on anything, go home!"

He added: "I’m not gunna lie, a good few of the lads went home!!! #TrueStory."

He added: "I've seen lads scatter like cock roaches when they knew the drug squad were in, pure panic setting in."



"Figures published this year showed that, in the 2015-16 season, at least 39% of players in the Football League were not tested. "

Clubs are responsible for notifying doping authorities of their players’ whereabouts for out-of-competition testing and a potential change, under review, would see an increase in fines for clubs who fail to meet that obligation. Manchester City and Bournemouth were fined £35,000 each last season after failing to ensure their whereabouts information was accurate.


Recently retired striker Matty Fryatt - who played in the Premier League for Hull City, and in all three divisions below the top flight - recalls being drugs tested just five times during his 15-year career.

In his one season in the Premier League, a campaign during which he helped the Tigers reach the 2014 FA Cup final, he was tested just once.

"When I was in the Premier League, I could easily have gone the entire season without being tested at all," the 31-year-old, who also played for Nottingham Forest, Leicester City and Walsall, told BBC Sport

 

[Snowfist]

Actually it’s a couple dozen people, the participants, standing or sitting 99% of the time, waiting for a guy to throw the ball so the other one can swing at it. And then a few of them run throw or catch during that other 1% of the time.

I will agree that American football is a manly sport...it takes a gruesome toll on the body and it’s a rough game. It still is No where near as tough as boxing/mma.

Basketball is less physical than soccer. Your getting your legs hacked at and being tackled at full speed. Basketball there is very little contact.

And back to baseball...I mean, you might as well be golfing it’s a joke.

So really, of America’s big three sports only one of them is more physical than soccer.

 

[xMaxPower]

I will agree that American football is a manly sport...it takes a gruesome toll on the body and it’s a rough game. It still is No where near as tough as boxing/mma.

Basketball is less physical than soccer. Your getting your legs hacked at and being tackled at full speed. Basketball there is very little contact.

And back to baseball...I mean, you might as well be golfing it’s a joke.

So really, of America’s big three sports only one of them is more physical than soccer.

whats your point?

 

[SuperNerd]

The idea that PEDs should be legalised is moronic tbh.

You’re picturing a utopia where we legalise PEDs and UFC fighters have full access to the latest gear and the best medical care available, ensuring everything is great. That in itself is out of the question while steroids remain illegal, often produced in underground labs or accessed via prescription only, and loads of UFC fighters make shit money.

But then look at what happens when it filters down. What do you think happens if the top guys openly take gear and are encouraged to do so? The guys aspiring to be the top guys take gear, the guys aspiring to be those guys take gear....all the way down to amateur level MMA shows where you have guys shoving needles in their ass with no health supervision whatsoever. It’s hugely irresponsible and a disaster waiting to happen. Ultimately you want sport to be about who is the best clean athlete, not which athlete has access to the best chemist and lab team. The UFC bringing in USADA is a brilliant move even if it means your favourite fighter being busted for being a career cheat.

QFT

 

[Fluffernutter]

not sure if you're actually serious, but baseball had just a litttttttttttttttttle bit of a scandal. it was kind of obscure and slipped through the cracks, since it only resulted in congressional hearings and all...

point being, everyone with more than 4 brain cells should know that PEDs are rampant in pro sportsball, same as fighting and the most extreme of all sports - cycling.

I am pro USADA. However, the baseball hearings were a joke.

The congressman that spearhead the hearings literally represented LA, Hollywood to be exact, in Congress.



I was hoping part two of the the hearings would be about steroids in Hollywood. But, I don't see that happening

 

[tramendous]

Not the diaz bros or any of my favorite fighters lol

 

[rob mafia]

I am pro USADA. However, the baseball hearings were a joke.

The congressman that spearhead the hearings literally represented LA, Hollywood to be exact, in Congress.



I was hoping part two of the the hearings would be about steroids in Hollywood. But, I don't see that happening

of course, they were a joke.

that wasn't the point. the point was that it was a spectacle and obvious. ie: commonly known.

going slightly off-topic, it's funny how baseball went from juiced players to juiced baseballs.

 

[whougonnacall]

It's basically just for show. They barely test. Only one player has ever failed in the premier league for PED's, you don't think its a sham?

90% of the tests are just urine samples and you're probably only going to get tested once per season.

You don't think the biggest sport in the world with millions on the line has PED use?

Professor Ivan Waddington - an expert in drugs in sport - says there is "clear evidence" both performance-enhancing and recreational drugs are used in the English game.

Waddington, co-author of the academic paper 'Drug use in English professional football' - published by the British Journal of Sports Medicine, was involved in a study carried out by the BBC in 2003 which indicated more than 150 players were likely to be using performance-enhancing drugs.

Former player Curtis Woodhouse said:

“At one of the clubs I played for, the gaffa used to come in the dressing room and say the drug squad are in today, if you’re on anything, go home!"

He added: "I’m not gunna lie, a good few of the lads went home!!! #TrueStory."

He added: "I've seen lads scatter like cock roaches when they knew the drug squad were in, pure panic setting in."



"Figures published this year showed that, in the 2015-16 season, at least 39% of players in the Football League were not tested. "

Clubs are responsible for notifying doping authorities of their players’ whereabouts for out-of-competition testing and a potential change, under review, would see an increase in fines for clubs who fail to meet that obligation. Manchester City and Bournemouth were fined £35,000 each last season after failing to ensure their whereabouts information was accurate.


Recently retired striker Matty Fryatt - who played in the Premier League for Hull City, and in all three divisions below the top flight - recalls being drugs tested just five times during his 15-year career.

In his one season in the Premier League, a campaign during which he helped the Tigers reach the 2014 FA Cup final, he was tested just once.

"When I was in the Premier League, I could easily have gone the entire season without being tested at all," the 31-year-old, who also played for Nottingham Forest, Leicester City and Walsall, told BBC Sport

So i posted an actualwesbiste shoeing the fact that there is random testing etc
And you replied with some bullshitters stories.... 'professor' lol
Re read it it talks mainly recreational drugs

The idea that most sports people are on ped drugs is fat people myth period

 

[cmw43]

So i posted an actualwesbiste shoeing the fact that there is random testing etc
And you replied with some bullshitters stories.... 'professor' lol
Re read it it talks mainly recreational drugs

The idea that most sports people are on ped drugs is fat people myth period

Check any actual source on the testing at best they'll have one random urine test a year, that's pretty easy go get around.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43032571

UFC pre-USADA, the NFL and the Olympics are filled to the brim with PED users, you're very naive if you dismiss it as a 'fat people myth'.

I know a bunch of people at the amateur level in fighting and American Football who are on PEDs to give themselves an edge and if you don't think that gets more advanced at the higher levels keep living in your dream world.

 

[whougonnacall]

Check any actual source on the testing at best they'll have one random urine test a year, that's pretty easy go get around.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43032571

UFC pre-USADA, the NFL and the Olympics are filled to the brim with PED users, you're very naive if you dismiss it as a 'fat people myth'.

I know a bunch of people at the amateur level in fighting and American Football who are on PEDs to give themselves an edge and if you don't think that gets more advanced at the higher levels keep living in your dream world.

Says only a 1/4 werent tested ie the rest were ...and its rising

The olympics has random testing and had a hugely politicaly awkward showdown with russia over their state run dopung program

And yeah while there is doping the idea its a majority or they all are is a fat people myth