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It's spelled Nunberg, not Nothingburger (Trump Organization Subpoenaed): Investigation v.15

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My guess is that since nobody would lend the president of the United States money...

Let me repeat that. Since nobody would lend the president of the United States money, he got money from Deutschebank, which is involved with Russian oligarchs. I think he's got thumbs in Russian pies.
Of course he does. Look at who buys his properties. Trump is super dirty in bed with Russian oligarchs who end up connecting back to Putin. That's why Trump told Mueller that Trump + Trump family finances were a red line. Now Mueller has stepped over that line and Trump has upped his aggression. Trump upped his aggression by calling Mueller out by name and hiring a lawyer who believes what Trump wants everyone to believe (that there is a deep state conspiracy against him)
 
Where's Putin's nickname?

I was thinking if he got an account here, how fast would Trump be banned from Sherdog?
Week, tops?
 
Of course he does. Look at who buys his properties. Trump is super dirty in bed with Russian oligarchs who end up connecting back to Putin. That's why Trump told Mueller that Trump + Trump family finances were a red line. Now Mueller has stepped over that line and Trump has upped his aggression. Trump upped his aggression by calling Mueller out by name and hiring a lawyer who believes what Trump wants everyone to believe (that there is a deep state conspiracy against him)
Seems like about my read on all this. Though ultimately Mueller may not be able to file a single charge against him, it doesn't change the facts, Donny looks exactly like a crook. A possibly treasonous crook.

I've never seen a bunch of republicans go so fucking spineless about Russia.
 
Seems like about my read on all this. Though ultimately Mueller may not be able to file a single charge against him, it doesn't change the facts, Donny looks exactly like a crook. A possibly treasonous crook.

I've never seen a bunch of republicans go so fucking spineless about Russia.
I've always believed it ends with Mueller listing Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator when Kushner or Jr are indicted. This forces Congress' hands and skirts around the inevitable SCOTUS issue. Then if Congress doesn't act NY (and possibly FL) will issue state based charges
 
My guess is that since nobody would lend the president of the United States money...

Let me repeat that. Since nobody would lend the president of the United States money, he got money from Deutschebank, which is involved with Russian oligarchs. I think he's got thumbs in Russian pies.

a few snippets from the article below:
In November 2008, Steven Molo, an attorney for Deutsche Bank, wrote a letter to the Supreme Court of New York about one of the company’s most troublesome clients. At issue was $640 million that client had borrowed in 2005 to fund construction of a new hotel in Chicago. The client had personally guaranteed the loan, but a few years later, the Great Recession devastated the economy, and he defaulted on his payment, with $330 million outstanding. Deutsche was seeking an immediate $40 million from the client, plus interest, legal fees and costs.

The debtor in question: Donald Trump, the future president of the United States.
Two years after Molo wrote his letter to the court, Trump settled his feud with the German bank. How he did it was bizarre: He paid back Deutsche with a massive lifeline—from Deutsche. Only this time he eschewed its real estate team—which wanted nothing to do with him—and got a loan from its private wealth division. This group typically deals with high-net-worth individuals, not real estate transactions, but in 2010 it not only lent him the money he owed its real estate team but also reportedly gave Trump another $25 million to $50 million in credit.
Deutsche employees in New York were surprised by the bank’s decision. When asked whether it was normal to give more money to a customer who was a bad credit risk and liked to sue, one former senior staff member at the bank put it succinctly: “Are you fucking kidding me?”
The loans to Trump weren’t the only abnormal behavior at Deutsche. Around the same time he received his new line of credit, the bank was laundering money, according to the New York State Department of Financial Services (DFS). Russian money. Billions of dollars that flowed from Moscow to London, then from London to New York—part of a scheme for which European and American regulators eventually punished the bank.

Was the timing of this illicit operation and the loans to Trump coincidental? Or evidence of something more sinister—a critical chapter in the president’s long history of suspicious business deals with Russian and post-Soviet oligarchs?

http://www.newsweek.com/2017/12/29/donald-trump-russia-secret-deutsche-bank-753780.html
 
I've always believed it ends with Mueller listing Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator when Kushner or Jr are indicted. This forces Congress' hands and skirts around the inevitable SCOTUS issue. Then if Congress doesn't act NY (and possibly FL) will issue state based charges
And I bow to your speculation because it's further than I could analyze. Sounds good on paper!
 
When you think about how spineless the GOP is being and how quickly some of them flipped from opposing Trump in the primary to gargling his ball sack, you have to wonder what Russia found when they hacked the RNC emails.
 
When you think about how spineless the GOP is being and how quickly some of them flipped from opposing Trump in the primary to gargling his ball sack, you have to wonder what Russia found when they hacked the RNC emails.
Or maybe it's this one that the GOP fears...


A prominent Kremlin-linked Russian politician has methodically cultivated ties with leaders of the National Rifle Association and documented efforts in real time over six years to leverage those connections and gain deeper access into American politics, NPR has learned.

These revelations come amid news that the FBI is investigating whether Torshin, the deputy governor of the Bank of Russia, illegally funneled money to the NRA to assist the Trump campaign in 2016, McClatchy reportedin January.
Mueller is investigating the NRA/Russia/RNC money. My guess is a whole bunch of GOP is compromised. We already have Ryan and others on tape admitting Putin pays Rohrbacher (dude he met with Assange) and Trump. Wonder how many more are bank rolled.
 
Or maybe it's this one that the GOP fears...



Lol fucking Rohrbacher. I've been waiting for him to hit the spotlight in this saga.

Mueller is investigating the NRA/Russia/RNC money. My guess is a whole bunch of GOP is compromised. We already have Ryan and others on tape admitting Putin pays Rohrbacher (dude he met with Assange) and Trump. Wonder how many more are bank rolled.
 
You know who I never want to hear about corruption from again, ever?

Trump voters. Possibly the biggest rubes on the planet.
 
I've always believed it ends with Mueller listing Trump as an unindicted co-conspirator when Kushner or Jr are indicted. This forces Congress' hands and skirts around the inevitable SCOTUS issue. Then if Congress doesn't act NY (and possibly FL) will issue state based charges
Florida won’t. Pam Bondi our AG , got 25k from Trump as a campaign donation and dropped the Trump University case.
 
Jared in the pocket of Saudi Prince - https://theintercept.com/2018/03/21/jared-kushner-saudi-crown-prince-mohammed-bin-salman/

Until he was stripped of his top-secret security clearance in February, presidential adviser Jared Kushner was known around the White House as one of the most voracious readers of the President’s Daily Brief, a highly classified rundown of the latest intelligence intended only for the president and his closest advisers.

Kushner, who had been tasked with bringing about a deal between Israel and Palestine, was particularly engaged by information about the Middle East, according to a former White House official and a former U.S. intelligence professional.

In June, Saudi prince Mohammed bin Salman ousted his cousin, then-Crown Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, and took his place as next in line to the throne, upending the established line of succession. In the months that followed, the President’s Daily Brief contained information on Saudi Arabia’s evolving political situation, including a handful of names of royal family members opposed to the crown prince’s power grab, according to the former White House official and two U.S. government officials with knowledge of the report. Like many others interviewed for this story, they declined to be identified because they were not authorized to speak about sensitive matters to the press.

In late October, Jared Kushner made an unannounced trip to Riyadh, catching some intelligence officials off guard. “The two princes are said to have stayed up until nearly 4 a.m. several nights, swapping stories and planning strategy,” the Washington Post’s David Ignatius reported at the time.

What exactly Kushner and the Saudi royal talked about in Riyadh may be known only to them, but after the meeting, Crown Prince Mohammed told confidants that Kushner had discussed the names of Saudis disloyal to the crown prince, according to three sources who have been in contact with members of the Saudi and Emirati royal families since the crackdown. Kushner, through his attorney’s spokesperson, denies having done so.
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On November 4, a week after Kushner returned to the U.S., the crown prince, known in official Washington by his initials MBS, launched what he called an anti-corruption crackdown. The Saudi government arrested dozens of members of the Saudi royal family and imprisoned them in the Ritz-Carlton Riyadh, which was first reported in English by The Intercept. The Saudi figures named in the President’s Daily Brief were among those rounded up; at least one was reportedly tortured.

The Saudi Embassy did not respond to questions from The Intercept. The White House referred questions to National Security Council spokesperson Michael Anton. Anton declined to comment, referring questions on Kushner’s discussions with MBS to Lowell.
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Senior U.S. government officials have long worried about Kushner’s handling of sensitive foreign policy issues given his lack of diplomatic experience. They have also raised concerns about the possibility that foreign officials might try to influence him through business deals with his family’s real estate empire. Special Counsel Robert Mueller is reportedly examining Kushner’s business ties as part of his ongoing probe.

The Washington Post reported this week that former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster “expressed early concern that Kushner was freelancing U.S. foreign policy.” According to the Post, Tillerson once asked staffers in frustration: “Who is the secretary of state here?”

Indeed, Kushner has grown so close to the Saudi and Emirati crown princes that he has communicated with them directly using WhatsApp, a reasonably secure messaging app owned by Facebook and popular in the Middle East, according to a senior Western official and a source close to the Saudi royal family.
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Kushner’s support for Saudi Arabia and the UAE over Qatar in the Gulf crisis has raised questions about a possible conflict of interest. Kushner backed the blockade a month after Qatar’s ministry of finance rebuffed an attempt by Kushner’s real estate firm, Kushner Companies, to extract financing for the firm’s troubled flagship property at 666 Fifth Avenue.

In 2007, Kushner bought the landmark Manhattan building for $1.8 billion, putting down $500 million in cash raised largely by selling thousands of rental units the family had owned in New Jersey. It was widely regarded as overpriced at the time, and when the financial crisis hit, the value plummeted, wiping out much of the initial investment. The clock is now ticking toward a February 2019 deadline when a major mortgage payment will come due.

Since 2011, Kushner and his relatives have been searching the globe for a new investor. As recently as the spring of 2017, Charles Kushner, Jared’s father, asked former Qatari prime minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani to invest in the building. Then in April 2017, Charles Kushner made a direct pitch to the Qatari government through the country’s minister of finance.

Qatar rejected the deal as not financially viable. In May, Trump traveled to Riyadh with Kushner, where the famous glowing orb photo was taken. In the wake of the meeting, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and a handful of allied countries announced the blockade of Qatar, which is aligned with Iran, a key Saudi adversary. The crisis continues today.​
 
When you think about how spineless the GOP is being and how quickly some of them flipped from opposing Trump in the primary to gargling his ball sack, you have to wonder what Russia found when they hacked the RNC emails.

Ehhh who really flipped?

The biggest "Flip" was probably Ryan and he did to get the tax cut he's spent his entire political career chasing.

Graham started kissing up because he thought he could play Trump and get DACA and other legislation passed. It hasn't happened and now he's back to telling the media Trump will be impeached if he fires Mueller.

Corker was a big Trump fan from Day 1. He went the other way and started attacking Trump publicly once Trump was in office but quieted down a bit when the Tax Cut Bill came around. He made some noise to try and keep the façade that he's a deficit hawk.

The Senate GOPers are only trying to appease their base. They are worried about losing in the primaries, not Russian Influence.

Let's remember that the Russian Sanctions Bill passed overwhelmingly and not try and get to crazy with CTs.

The House has just been steadily filled with Loonies over the years. Paul Ryan is being threatened by the Freedom Caucus regularly over charges that he's acting like a RINO.

We can't treat Russia and the Koch Brothers like some Boogeymen that are controlling the GOP
 
Ehhh who really flipped?

The biggest "Flip" was probably Ryan and he did to get the tax cut he's spent his entire political career chasing.

Graham started kissing up because he thought he could play Trump and get DACA and other legislation passed. It hasn't happened and now he's back to telling the media Trump will be impeached if he fires Mueller.

Corker was a big Trump fan from Day 1. He went the other way and started attacking Trump publicly once Trump was in office but quieted down a bit when the Tax Cut Bill came around. He made some noise to try and keep the façade that he's a deficit hawk.

The Senate GOPers are only trying to appease their base. They are worried about losing in the primaries, not Russian Influence.

Let's remember that the Russian Sanctions Bill passed overwhelmingly and not try and get to crazy with CTs.

The House has just been steadily filled with Loonies over the years. Paul Ryan is being threatened by the Freedom Caucus regularly over charges that he's acting like a RINO.

We can't treat Russia and the Koch Brothers like some Boogeymen that are controlling the GOP
How about Cruz? Sucking up to Trump after having his wife and father insulted.
 
How about Cruz? Sucking up to Trump after having his wife and father insulted.

Ted Cruz is the slimiest of slime balls and always has been.

That being said has he come out supporting Trump or has he just been silent about him?
 
Ted Cruz wants a SCOTUS gig. He could be next if Trump gets another vacancy. Thomas is sure to retire under Trump, Kennedy wants to retire but he's the swing vote and knows he'd be replaced by a Gorsuch nutter. RBG is selfish and should have retired under Obama but wanted to break a personal goal/record - now the three time cancer survivor frail as hell 90 yr old risks her life's work being wiped away if she dies under Trump Presidency.
 
Ehhh who really flipped?

The biggest "Flip" was probably Ryan and he did to get the tax cut he's spent his entire political career chasing.

Graham started kissing up because he thought he could play Trump and get DACA and other legislation passed. It hasn't happened and now he's back to telling the media Trump will be impeached if he fires Mueller.

Corker was a big Trump fan from Day 1. He went the other way and started attacking Trump publicly once Trump was in office but quieted down a bit when the Tax Cut Bill came around. He made some noise to try and keep the façade that he's a deficit hawk.

The Senate GOPers are only trying to appease their base. They are worried about losing in the primaries, not Russian Influence.

Let's remember that the Russian Sanctions Bill passed overwhelmingly and not try and get to crazy with CTs.

The House has just been steadily filled with Loonies over the years. Paul Ryan is being threatened by the Freedom Caucus regularly over charges that he's acting like a RINO.

We can't treat Russia and the Koch Brothers like some Boogeymen that are controlling the GOP

The entire GOP establishment. They're now firmly backing up the guy they once all stood against, no questions asked. The only guy who disagrees with Trump now and then is Graham and that's a pretty weak disagreement. ("I don't think Trump should <possible future event>.")

After their unheard of "no presidential interference" clause in the Russian sanctions I thought they might have some spine, but that has disappeared.

We know for sure they were hacked and that their info hasn't been released. Anything after that is speculation. It's also interesting how many Republicans are planning on getting out of politics ASAP. So many retirements coming.
 
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