Islam Makhachev doesn't have good sub defense

ifindgifsforjackslack said:
Positional awareness > sloppy sub attempts. A lot of those guillotines for example are at terrible angles, in half guard with Islam passing to side control lol
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Also this, some people purposely bait with a submission just so they can get a better position. Khabib does it a lot with guillotine because he knows his defense for it is strong and he ends up on top. Even though Dustin's was close, Khabib had to readjust multiple times to get out of that one.

A lot of people bait with armbars from the bottom so they can get up or reverse, even giving baiting their backs to initiate a scramble. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Also depends how good the grappler they are baiting is.
 
Well his takedowns, positional control and passing are probably the best in the UFC at 155lbs so even if his submission defense is a little suspect, I dont know if anyone can expose it. He's also ridiculously strong and big for the weight so subbing him wont be easy.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
He means that sub defense is not getting caught in a submission attempt.
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He's a wrestler. Sometimes wrestlers get caught in guillotines when shooting. Even Khabib.

Anyway Islam's in half guard,he aint stressin it.
 
HHJ said:
He's a wrestler. Sometimes wrestlers get caught in guillotines when shooting. Even Khabib.

Anyway Islam's in half guard,he aint stressin it.
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True. But he isn't a wrestler with no submission knowledge, he knows exactly when he's vulnerable. That's why he shoots his takedowns and moves his head to the opposite side, Islam does this too. They do it to prevent the guillotine, but those are different than the times they are baiting for it. Other times Khabib will just put his head out there and wait for the guillotine attempt.
 
I always cringe at the idea of khabib or his boys getting caught with an inside heel hook. Its almost guaranteed they would end up getting their knee shred apart from not tapping to it.
 
We've seen tons of guillotines and tons of heel hooks go nowhere. Despite guys going to leg attacks on bottom they almost never finish and 90% of guillotines are just Hail Mary plays when TDD fails.
 
Going to say this again. Maybe it was a blessing in disguise that Islam wasn't the first in line for that title shot over Poirier (and possibly Gaetjhe)?

The risks of taking the fight to the mat against an opponent with submission ability comparable to Werdum is extremely dangerous. Fedor, despite him being a phenomenal grapper and a submission artist in his own right, ended up getting submitted that way.

It could be a fight where Islam may have to keep the fight standing.
 
If Islam would be lucky enough to let TS train him in sub defense, he would be unstoppable!
 
is a said:
Going to say this again. Maybe it was a blessing in disguise that Islam wasn't the first in line for that title shot over Poirier (and possibly Gaetjhe)?

The risks of taking the fight to the mat against an opponent with submission ability comparable to Werdum is extremely dangerous. Fedor, despite him being a phenomenal grapper and a submission artist in his own right, ended up getting submitted that way.

It could be a fight where Islam may have to keep the fight standing.
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Did you watch Oliveira vs Kevin Lee?

Kevin is nowhere near the grappler as Islam and he controlled Oliveira on the ground for about 6 mins in rounds 1&2, defended his sub attempts and landed some ground and pound. He lost early in round 3 but relatively speaking if Kevin was able to control Oliveira on the floor for 2 rounds Islam will have no problems doing the same for 5 rounds if needed.
 
Ackmed said:
Did you watch Oliveira vs Kevin Lee?

Kevin is nowhere near the grappler as Islam and he controlled Oliveira on the ground for about 6 mins in rounds 1&2, defended his sub attempts and landed some ground and pound. He lost early in round 3 but relatively speaking if Kevin was able to control Oliveira on the floor for 2 rounds Islam will have no problems doing the same for 5 rounds if needed.
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MMA Calculator's are extremely accurate don't let nobody fool you !!

Only on rare occasions do they fuck up

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