Media Islam goes in on Conor and says more is to come

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I haven't been following the case

But I heard her original story was that she was gangraped by security and then changed it. I'm not gonna invest much here so maybe someone else can fact check this.

The other issue is filing this in civil court, not criminal court, which means that the goal was money, as that's the only result that can come of it. If this isn't going to be tried in criminal court at all, it's a bit questionable.

Some of her testimony was also a bit questionable, saying that Conor pinned her down and saying "this is how I felt when I got submitted 3 times"

There's a lot of things believable here, but that one line sounded like a non mma fans attempt to describe something mma related.

I think one of the other claims was PTSD and inability to work for 3 years or something of that nature due to trauma, it's hard to comment on that without a credible psychological assessment available to the public. Ideally several, to avoid bias and conflicts of interest. For the prosecution or defense, this seems like it would be the smoking gun, as complex ptsd over an extenuated period of time is difficult to fake.

Overall, I think Conor is capable of many things, I believe some of his cases are true, but not all, so it's hard to say.

The stories of threats made to girls by gangsters, cars set on fire, bricks thrown through windows and things of that nature sound like they're very real and very on brand to stories I've heard come out of Ireland, both online and people I've talked to in-person.

Is this legit? Or is it an elaborate web woven, much like the girl who claimed to get raped in an NBA bathroom with security guarding the door, only to be seen on camera laughing and joking with him after.

It's good to be asking these questions because it sets a precedent for the evidence required to accuse someone of rape. Which is good for both men who could potentially be falsely accused, as well as women who have legitimately been abused.

There should be a standard before any strong belief either way, especially in the current climate.

Otherwise, it just makes legitimate cases of sexual assault that much more difficult to take seriously and adds to the already established culture of silence.

Admittedly, I haven't looked that deeply into the case though, so this is all just general, prerequisite questioning and conjecture.

If anything I've said here is incorrect then others are free to educate me further.
 
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DrMurrayDolphin said:
Who cares.

McGregor is effectively retired and they will likely never fight.

This is just Islam trying to be relevant. Frankly it’s just kind of pathetic. Culturally speaking, I doubt Islam has much of a problem with “rape” nor is he probably particularly concerned with women’s rights. So it’s just a nothing burger of a throwaway comment by Islam.

Just fight your next fight, Islam. Nobody cares about your opinion on an inactive fighter. You’re a monkey that is paid to dance for my entertainment. If you’re not dancing I really don’t care.
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what are you ? you have no shame by saying that Islam has no problem with rape ?

it is obvious that you have no issues with women get raped.
you are defending Conor that much means you both have common grounds.

by the way , people are looking to see Islam fighting next. nobody cares about you.
don't try to put you on a higher level. seems like you are a small piece of shit only
 
krelianx said:
I have something smart to say.

You are not as intelligent as you think you are, and you don't know what you think you know.

Just for example. You claimed that

"There's no evidence that he committed the assault."

There was plenty of evidence presented by Hand's legal team: Conor's DNA being in her, her having multiple injuries, a tampon incrusted, doctors testifying to the unlikelihood of this being the result of consensual sex, the admission that Conor had sex with her, the messages she sent before returning home, trauma specialists that reported on her state for years, and the lack of any other DNA from anyone else.

You can argue that this was not sufficient evidence for the authorities to open a criminal case because they believe the evidence would not lead to a conviction. But that's different than saying that there was no evidence. You use evidence as if it entailed not only causal link but a sufficient cause for the imputation.

If there had been no evidence, Conor wouldn't have been found responsible. He was. Because the evidence presented was deemed sufficient to make his story more believable than hers. The threshold for criminal conviction is higher. But to say that "no evidence" was presented is not only wrong, but stupid, and shows utter ignorance of what happened, and what words mean.

You then said "It was some liberal judge who wanted to flex."

But this was not ruled by a judge, but by a jury. This was in Ireland.

You then claimed she wanted money. But she pursued criminal case before going to civil, and did not accept a settlement.



So, long story short. You are a complete and utter imbecile, who doesn't only get the facts of the case wrong, showing ignorance while posturing as knowledgable. But you also don't even understand the concepts or words you use, like evidence.

You are a pathetic imbecile, and nothing more.
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“Incrusted”? Literally a phone would have corrected that for you. Holy shit.

I’m really not that up to date on the case but clearly since it didn’t go to a criminal trial there was insufficient evidence to convict, which admit in your rambling, nearly incoherent post.

As I previously, and correctly, stated, this was simply a liberal judge agreeing to give money to some woman that had a regrettable sexual encounter with a famous athlete.

Women willingly have sex with men all the time and then sincerely regret it. That doesn’t amount to assault. Such is the case with this woman.

Again, if it were reasonably possible to convict in criminal court you can bet your ass it would have been tried, but it wasn’t, which is all you need know. Just because some activist judge wants to give money to a thot doesn’t mean a crime occurred.

Cry harder.
 
legedema said:
what are you ? you have no shame by saying that Islam has no problem with rape ?

it is obvious that you have no issues with women get raped.
you are defending Conor that much means you both have common grounds.

by the way , people are looking to see Islam fighting next. nobody cares about you.
don't try to put you on a higher level. seems like you are a small piece of shit only
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lol ok bro.
 
DrMurrayDolphin said:
“Incrusted”? Literally a phone would have corrected that for you. Holy shit.

I’m really not that up to date on the case but clearly since it didn’t go to a criminal trial there was insufficient evidence to convict, which admit in your rambling, nearly incoherent post.

As I previously, and correctly, stated, this was simply a liberal judge agreeing to give money to some woman that had a regrettable sexual encounter with a famous athlete.

Women willingly have sex with men all the time and then sincerely regret it. That doesn’t amount to assault. Such is the case with this woman.

Again, if it were reasonably possible to convict in criminal court you can bet your ass it would have been tried, but it wasn’t, which is all you need know. Just because some activist judge wants to give money to a thot doesn’t mean a crime occurred.

Cry harder.
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I really hope somebody bans this imbecile and spares this forum of this garbage.
 
legedema said:
why is he not in jail ?
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To be fair, burden of proof in civil cases is often much lower than in criminal.

Trumps SA ruling for instance, when his supposed vivtim couldnt say what year, month, or season the event alleged event happened, nor could she describe the layout of the store and said it many years later still won millions.

I havent really looked up much in this case but if i had to guess Conor argued consensual sex and there wasnt any or enough evidence that it wasn't. Not say he is innocent either, like I said dont know much about this case.
 
The larger than life character that drew us all in comes with a flip side, egomaniac rapist.
 
krelianx said:
Rose got mentally screwed, Chiesa was cut and lost a potential title shot. Ray Borg had a kid in the hospital and needed the money and couldn't fight either. Schaub ended up paying for hospital bills for his family later. The driver got injured.

Not to mention, it was the most cowardly thing to do possible. Show up with 30 thugs to a bus of fighters at the height of their weight cut to challenge Khabib for a fight.

He's a drug addict, alcoholic, rapist, and a coward to top it off.
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The rape and elder abuse are way worse I think.

Tbf khabib started the gang warfare shit by punking out little Artem with a bunch of goons. I honestly found the dolly thing to defend a friend the most honorable thing the leprechaun ever did.
 
DrMurrayDolphin said:
Note that that I didn’t make my account name something stupid and evocative like “TITS” because I’m an intelligent and well read man, something you clearly are not.
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You make this statement with a straight face whilst your name is DrMurrayDolphin. Lol
 
AstralPanda said:
I haven't been following the case

But I heard her original story was that she was gangraped by security and then changed it. I'm not gonna invest much here so maybe someone else can fact check this.
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Thats false and you pulled that out of your ass.
She has never claimed that at all.

Maybe start by fact checking before posting..
 
DrMurrayDolphin said:
“Incrusted”? Literally a phone would have corrected that for you. Holy shit.

I’m really not that up to date on the case but clearly since it didn’t go to a criminal trial there was insufficient evidence to convict, which admit in your rambling, nearly incoherent post.

As I previously, and correctly, stated, this was simply a liberal judge agreeing to give money to some woman that had a regrettable sexual encounter with a famous athlete.

Women willingly have sex with men all the time and then sincerely regret it. That doesn’t amount to assault. Such is the case with this woman.

Again, if it were reasonably possible to convict in criminal court you can bet your ass it would have been tried, but it wasn’t, which is all you need know. Just because some activist judge wants to give money to a thot doesn’t mean a crime occurred.

Cry harder.
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guess this is Conor's dick speaking.
since you pretend to know everything like you were there.
 
JBJ was here said:
The fact that him throwing a dolly through the window of a bus filled with UFC fighters wasn't the end of his UFC career says everything you need to know about how the UFC views its fighters.
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That one was probably the least problematic thing he did.
Hell, I even understand that situation, at least partially.

The other, newer ones....not really, to put it mildly.
 
Stump said:
The writing has been in large bold font, underlined on the wall for years.

Innocent until proven guilty on the serious criminal acts, ie the rapes, but the cellphone Smashing, old man punching, the flagrant cheating, the over-the-line prefight family-inlvolving shit talking, the absurd flashy consumerism and associating with shitheads and thugs on Instagram... all more than enough circumstantial evidence.
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Remember when Conor broke his leg? He said that Poirier's wife and kid are gonna be dead. Who in their right mind does that? No one.
 
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