International Isis/syria/iraq thread

[SiKnSiN]

We're basically fighting a war against Syria with no Congressional authorization. Fuck Trump.

 

[whougonnacall]

Explosions reported in quashmili (kurd held) unknown if air strikes,artillery, kurd on kurd violence or just accident

Reports isis has regained some of raqqua ..wonder if this news has affected the sdf push
The u.s apparently has (twitter report) semd 350 truckloads of weaponry and ammo to sdf for their push on raqqua pre this fighting!

 

[Phr3121]

We're basically fighting a war against Syria with no Congressional authorization.

The 'War Powers Resolution' gives the president 90 days to use military power without Congressional approval. Who said we are fighting a war against Syria? We are merely supporting the anti-Syrian regime forces. A lot of the same shit we did in Nicaragua and El Salvador.

 

[SiKnSiN]

Who said we are fighting a war against Syria? We are merely supporting the anti-Syrian regime forces. A lot of the same shit we did in Nicaragua and El Salvador.

It doesn't need to be said bc it's pretty damn obvious. We have invaded a sovereign nation, armed rebel forces in opposition of the government, and have carried out multiple military strikes against the government.

Bringing up El Salvador and Nicaragua definitely doesn't make a good case. The main difference in El Salvador was that we were actually helping the government brutalize the populace. And it should of been illegal. We knew what they were doing to people, yet we still supported them. Hell, their death sqauds killed US citizens and we still backed them. But hey, we at least got MS 13 out of it.

Our contra war in Nicaragua was bs, but our military action was limited in comparison. It was mostly a CIA operation, and I don't even think air strikes were authorized (even though the CIA wanted them). I also don't remember hitting them with 50+ cruise missiles. Just another action we shouldn't have taken.

The scope of our involvement in Syria is on a completely different level in comparison.

 

[Phr3121]

We have invaded a sovereign nation, armed rebel forces in opposition of the government, and have carried out multiple military strikes against the government.

Invaded? We were asked to help. We were invited into Syria. Indeed we have armed rebel forces and carried out military strikes against Assad. So what? I'm all for it. Anyone who rapes, burns, and kills women and children indiscriminately deserves to gets an ass-whooping or die.

 

[whougonnacall]

We're basically fighting a war against Syria with no Congressional authorization. Fuck Trump.

Syria is an inanimate piece of land..we cant wage war on it personaly
If you mean the inherited genocidal dictatorship that opposes us there
A)fuck em
B) they and their allies cant handle isis a worldwide threat so we will
C)did i mention fuck em?

So far weve done more to support the regime than fight it...isis has been the focus so far.

 

[Phr3121]

Current military situation: Red: Syrian government, Green: Syrian opposition, Yellow: Rojava (SDF), Grey: ISIS, and White: Tahrir al-Sham.

 

[Prex32]

Syria is an inanimate piece of land..we cant wage war on it personaly
If you mean the inherited genocidal dictatorship that opposes us there
A)fuck em
B) they and their allies cant handle isis a worldwide threat so we will
C)did i mention fuck em?

So far weve done more to support the regime than fight it...isis has been the focus so far.

lol so dellusional
it's syria, it's rakka, let the syrian army handle it themselves, they've made great progress battling isis, let them crush them, theres is nothing for the us to defend
don't support separatism. with the intervention you only support terrorism not only there but worldwide, look at europe
you can't install democracy over there in the me
remember what happened to lybia, afghanistan, iraq etc
don't be blind, you're just another warmonger
it's actually what trump didn't want...

 

[whougonnacall]

lol so dellusional
it's syria, it's rakka, let the syrian army handle it themselves, they've made great progress battling isis, let them crush them, theres is nothing for the us to defend
don't support separatism. with the intervention you only support terrorism not only there but worldwide, look at europe
you can't install democracy over there in the me
remember what happened to lybia, afghanistan, iraq etc
don't be blind, you're just another warmonger
it's actually what trump didn't want...

The patchwork of militas (majority foriegn many terrorist listed ) that u call the syrian army couldnt take raqqua in a dozen lifetimes its a fortress , even with russian airpower hence we need to do this ourselves with capable local forces like the fsa and sdf and the advantages western airpowers much more precise weaponry brings
The only progress the regime have made is taking largely villages isis abandon as they retreat ...vs actual resistance they fair poorly indeed

 

[Offended]

The patchwork of militas (majority foriegn many terrorist listed ) that u call the syrian army couldnt take raqqua in a dozen lifetimes its a fortress , even with russian airpower hence we need to do this ourselves with capable local forces like the fsa and sdf and the advantages western airpowers much more precise weaponry brings
The only progress the regime have made is taking largely villages isis abandon as they retreat ...vs actual resistance they fair poorly indeed

lmao
real precise at bombing hospitals.

 

[Prex32]

The patchwork of militas (majority foriegn many terrorist listed ) that u call the syrian army couldnt take raqqua in a dozen lifetimes its a fortress , even with russian airpower hence we need to do this ourselves with capable local forces like the fsa and sdf and the advantages western airpowers much more precise weaponry brings
The only progress the regime have made is taking largely villages isis abandon as they retreat ...vs actual resistance they fair poorly indeed

ok chief strategist (aka keyboard warrior)
of course they could take the city within few months, just like they did with aleppo and just like what the coalition is doing in mossul now. it's the only strategy.
and of course there's a syrian army. was there before the conflict and is still intact.

 

[SiKnSiN]

Invaded? We were asked to help. We were invited into Syria. Indeed we have armed rebel forces and carried out military strikes against Assad. So what? I'm all for it. Anyone who rapes, burns, and kills women and children indiscriminately deserves to gets an ass-whooping or die.

Yes, invaded. Agree with the last line though. Those "moderate rebels" and Assad deserve what they get. We shouldn't be involved either way.

 

[Stoic1]

Iraq. Libya. And now Syria.

We are creating something worse than a brutal dictator. Much worse.

 

[whougonnacall]

lmao
real precise at bombing hospitals.

Dude russia is leauges above at hospital bombing

 

[whougonnacall]

ok chief strategist (aka keyboard warrior)
of course they could take the city within few months, just like they did with aleppo and just like what the coalition is doing in mossul now. it's the only strategy.
and of course there's a syrian army. was there before the conflict and is still intact.

Aleppo was taken over a few years dude and still needed the help of the turks to secure some of the rebels leaving the others and kurdish assistance to fall...we dont want to wait for that long with raqqua esp now the sdf are inside the city

Not to mention the rebels and sdf can secure the area ...by contrast whats left of the deeply unpopular regime and its foriegn merc forces will always breed resistance and war that isis can reform in

And no the regime ground forces are a patchwork of militas now, majority of offendive ground force is foriegn.

 

[KantoTerror]

Aleppo was taken over a few years dude and still needed the help of the turks to secure some of the rebels leaving the others and kurdish assistance to fall...we dont want to wait for that long with raqqua esp now the sdf are inside the city

Not to mention the rebels and sdf can secure the area ...by contrast whats left of the deeply unpopular regime and its foriegn merc forces will always breed resistance and war that isis can reform in

And no the regime ground forces are a patchwork of militas now, majority of offendive ground force is foriegn.

US only business there is to topple Assad and put someone they have ties to control Syria and eventually the oilfields...Iraq & Libya is pretty much similar. The only difference now is that Assad got Iran & Russia behind him.

 

[whougonnacall]

US only business there is to topple Assad and put someone they have ties to control Syria and eventually the oilfields...Iraq & Libya is pretty much similar. The only difference now is that Assad got Iran & Russia behind him.

If we wanted him gone hed be gone by now (we have actively hobbled rebels at points thus sustaining him)and syria isnt a huge oil producer either
At this stage we have focused almost entirely on isis

 

[KantoTerror]

If we wanted him gone hed be gone by now (we have actively hobbled rebels at points thus sustaining him)and syria isnt a huge oil producer either
At this stage we have focused almost entirely on isis

Because ISIS causes a lot more trouble for the US than Syrian Regime. But US wants everything in order.

 

[Prex32]

If we wanted him gone hed be gone by now (we have actively hobbled rebels at points thus sustaining him)and syria isnt a huge oil producer either
At this stage we have focused almost entirely on isis

stupid logic. you buy into that isis shit? the us coalition uses/used isis (or so called rebels) to basically secure/control those oil transit zones....yes, isis is bad, but it didn't appear out of nothing.

 

[whougonnacall]

Because ISIS causes a lot more trouble for the US than Syrian Regime. But US wants everything in order.

Its more due to bad policy...isis and the regime arent seperate issues they are linked ...no assad=no rise of isis
So far we focus isis for now but we do need to at least adress long term.issues