Is/was MMA ever bigger than boxing?

[Irabbs]

LOL you trying to make Canelo allowing fan to enjoy both main events sound like a bad thing

Also makes sense ppv wise for the fights to be on at diff times I mean the whole point is to make more money right so common sense would be if they were on at diff times. The poster is obv retarded who suggested canelo was scared.

 

[JudoJabs]

Tank is the biggest story in sports tonigtht, trending everywhere with huge celebrities and some major names in sports paying respect, along with tons of MMA/UFC fighters....

And you want to convince me that we’re not in a bubble on Sherdog?

 

[blacknblue104]

Never and No. PPV buys don't lie.

lol wtf...Compare the total buys for UFC events with a title on the line vs boxing events with a major world title on the line.

 

[Irabbs]

Tank is the biggest story in sports tonigtht, trending everywhere with huge celebrities and some major names in sports paying respect, along with tons of MMA/UFC fighters....

And you want to convince me that we’re not in a bubble on Sherdog?

Some mma fans came from boxing and watch both sports(myself included) so have knowledge of both sports and awareness of popularity , alot of posters(majority) in this forum are younger and have only watched mma so I'm not surprised by this deluded view that mma is more popular. Even in the USA I don't think it's more popular yet, it might be one day but it ain't yet. As for the rest of the world boxing dominated generally although u have certain countries where mma is more popular.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Lol at this circle jerk of a few insecure boxing fans trying way too hard to convince themselves and others.

 

[JKS]

weak response but it’s hard to defend MMA being better than Boxing

Really isn't actually.

Here....

I like MMA and think it's better. You like boxing and think it's better. Everyone wins and everyone's happy.

In the end though...my guys beat the snot out of yours in a real fight.

 

[capnlarge]

It seems like the real draw right now is when MMA fighters do boxing

 

[Corrado Soprano]

Really isn't actually.

Here....

I like MMA and think it's better. You like boxing and think it's better. Everyone wins and everyone's happy.

In the end though...my guys beat the snot out of yours in a real fight.

boxing is better and more popular worldwide. MMA guys fight for peanuts cause they’re not good enough to be in boxing

 

[JKS]

boxing is better and more popular worldwide. MMA guys fight for peanuts cause they’re not good enough to be in boxing

Yes! That's right. All the fighters with a background in wrestling, bjj, judo, sambo, kickboxing, karate, all wanted to be pro boxers! Yah....that's the best way to put their skills to use.

More popular? LOL, you got the best p4p boxers that can't sell 300K ppvs to save their lives. You got 3-4 stars worldwide. Fact of the matter is both sports are popular in different countries. MMA and the UFC in particular just do a far better job at marketing their sport.

 

[codfather]

500k+ US PPV buys since 2019:

UFC:

1. 1.6m - Poirier vs McGregor 2 (2021)
2. 1.5m - Poirier vs McGregor 3 (2021)
   
3. 1.4m - McGregor vs Cerrone (2020)
   
4. 1.3m - Usman vs Masvidal (2020)
5. 0.8m - Błachowicz vs Adesanya (2021)
   
6. 0.7m - Ferguson vs Gaethje (2020)
7. 0.7m - Usman vs Masvidal 2 (2021)
   
8. 0.7m - Adesanya vs. Costa (2020)
9. 0.7m - Usman vs Covington 2 (2021)
   
10. 0.68m - Khabib vs Gaethje (2020)
    
11. 0.65m - Jones vs Smith (2019)
12. 0.6m - Adesanya vs Vettori 2 (2021)
13. 0.5m - Oliveira vs Poirier (2021)
    
14. 0.5m - Miocic vs Cormier 3 (2020)

Boxing:

1. 2m - KSI vs Paul (2019) - 200 lbs
2. 1.6m - Tyson vs Jones (2020) - Unl.
3. 1.2m - Davis vs Garcia (2023) - 140 lbs
4. 1m - Mayweather vs Paul (2021) - 200 lbs
5. 0.85m - Canelo vs Golovkin 3 (2022) - 168 lbs
6. 0.8m - Wilder vs Fury 2 (2020) - Unl.
7. 0.8m - Canelo vs Plant (2021) - 168 lbs
8. 0.68 - Spence vs Crawford (2023) - 147 lbs
9. 0.6m - Fury vs Wilder 3 (2021) - Unl.
10. 0.52m - Canelo vs Bivol (2022) - 175 lbs
11. 0.5m - Pacquiao vs Thurman (2019) - 147 lbs
12. 0.5m - Paul vs Woodley (2021) - 200 lbs

 

[Super Grover]

Ask the casual what boxers do they know? vs What MMA fighters do they know?

Most likely they would name 5 MMA fighters who are retired lol.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

I'm not even sure circus fights like the Paul brothers should even count as 'boxing'. I's really just celebrity competition.

Aside from that garbage you have some big time guys still kicking around. Outside of that, well, boxing is in shambles...

MMA might be bigger than boxing right now, in NA at least.

MMA is the same way.

There are like 6-7 fighters people know and nobody watches the cards that don't have them involved

 

[1BadMF]

MMA has never reached the popularity boxing had in its heyday.

 

[codfather]

Ryan Garcia has the potential for serious drawing power. Chavez JR was never star potential so dunno why you're mentioning him. It more sounds like you don't follow boxing much. You're acting like the UFC has a bunch of future mainstream stars waiting in the wings.

Ryan Garcia is American though, I said: "Take the US and UK out of the picture".
My point is; people act like boxing's trump card over MMA is its international audience, but outside the US and UK, there aren't any new stars coming through.
...and by the way, Chavez Jr was a huge star in Mexico, so saying he was "never star potential" is bullshit.
I think Adesanya, Usman and Ngannou will make MMA bigger than boxing in Africa.
I think ONE Championship will make MMA bigger than boxing in South East Asia.
I think Brandon Moreno can narrow the gap on boxing in Mexico.

 

[The Chosen]

I think Brandon Moreno can narrow the gap on boxing in Mexico.

Nah Moreno is kind of a nerd

 

[avenue94]

Ryan Garcia is American though, I said: "Take the US and UK out of the picture".
My point is; people act like boxing's trump card over MMA is its international audience, but outside the US and UK, there aren't any new stars coming through.
...and by the way, Chavez Jr was a huge star in Mexico, so saying he was "never star potential" is bullshit.
I think Adesanya, Usman and Ngannou will make MMA bigger than boxing in Africa.
I think ONE Championship will make MMA bigger than boxing in South East Asia.
I think Brandon Moreno can narrow the gap on boxing in Mexico.

Yeah, Garcia's inability to speak Spanish (if I recall) is going to hurt him. But he'll appeal to the Mexican diaspora in the U.S. and bring in younger fans. There's not a clean divide between the actual Spanish markets and Spanish speaking market in the U.S.

Also, nope Pacquiao is still active, ONE isn't even in the running.

 

[chiefwiggum]

Guess there wasn't much to say about Canalo waiting, that's cool.

Those things happen all the time two weeks ago. Tank Davis fought lomachenko fought and another card and barrknuckle.

the viewer was able to watch the main events in it’s entirety.
Basically it’s not unusual at all.

 

[chiefwiggum]

500k+ US PPV buys since 2019:

UFC:

1. 1.6 - Poirier vs McGregor 2 (2021)
2. 1.4m - McGregor vs Cerrone (2020)
   
3. 1.35m - Usman vs Masvidal (2020)
4. 0.8m - Błachowicz vs Adesanya (2021)
   
5. 0.7m - Ferguson vs Gaethje (2020)
6. 0.7m - Usman vs Masvidal 2 (2021)
   
7. 0.7m - Adesanya vs. Costa (2020)
   
8. 0.68m - Khabib vs Gaethje (2020)
   
9. 0.65m - Jones vs Smith (2019)
10. 0.6m - Adesanya vs Vettori 2 (2021)
    
11. 0.5m - Miocic vs Cormier 3 (2020)

Boxing:

1. 1.6m - Tyson vs Jones (2020)
   
2. 1.2m - Wilder vs Fury 2 (2020)
3. 1m - Mayweather vs Paul (2021)
   
4. 0.5m - Pacquiao vs Thurman (2019)

You realize boxing wasn’t running events for about a year during that period and ufc was the only show In town.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

My point is; people act like boxing's trump card over MMA is its international audience, but outside the US and UK, there aren't any new stars coming through.
...and by the way, Chavez Jr was a huge star in Mexico, so saying he was "never star potential" is bullshit.
I think Adesanya, Usman and Ngannou will make MMA bigger than boxing in Africa.
I think ONE Championship will make MMA bigger than boxing in South East Asia.
I think Brandon Moreno can narrow the gap on boxing in Mexico.

The whole narrative regarding boxings international popularity relative to MMA is very overplayed. If you look up the scheduled cards in both for the rest of this week boxing has 34 events across 20 different countries and MMA has 29 across 14, not all that big a difference honestly. Its not like these boxing events are larger scale than the MMA shows either for the most part, especially the ones taking place outside of the US.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

You realize boxing wasn’t running events for about a year during that period and ufc was the only show In town.

The UFC has been hitting 500+k more often than boxing since like 2008.