Is this effective? (video)

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by k'z factory, Jan 20, 2006.

  1. k'z factory

    k'z factory White Belt

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    i was just wondering if anyone has ever tried or been taught the submission that joachim hansen demonstrates in this video:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6474994978373628095&q=hansen

    if so, have you been able to use it effectively? it doesn't seem like there would be too many situations in which it would be preferable for you to attempt that choke instead of a rnc or something else more standard. i tried it a couple times when sparring the other night, but i wasn't able to use it too effectively. thoughts?
     
  2. Dr. BadAss

    Dr. BadAss Guest

    Eh... putting your arm in that situation is never a good idea. If you lose one of your hooks, your arm is right there for a kimura.
     
  3. minimagpro

    minimagpro Purple Belt

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    ok well first, you are going to get kimura'd

    second, what happens when the guy rolls to his right, he just lands on his face and cant finish the choke

    third, why do that complicated shit? the RNC is easier, more affective, and harder to defend
     
  4. Jimmy Cerra

    Jimmy Cerra Amateur Fighter

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    What happened to all his hair? Is he having chemotherapy? His head looks like a skull! Is he alright?
     
  5. krellik

    krellik Gimli son of Cisco

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    If it works for Hellboy its good enough for me.
     
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    bacon Silver Belt

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    It looks like a set up to a wrestling guillotine, where the top man puts in a hook and hangs his head waiting for the sucker on bottom to reach back.....only...different...
     
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    It could work on new people, I guess.
     
  8. Dr. BadAss

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    If a guy pulled my arm to one side, an armbar is the more appropriate option.
     
  9. IMP

    IMP OBLIVION RECORDER

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    Actually you use this when you go for rnc but your opponent pulls your arm over his head to the other side......
     
  10. GJJNY

    GJJNY Purple Belt

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    If anyone leaves their neck THAT exposed, they deserve to get caught in that stupid "technique". That's the kinda crap filler you see in Kung Fu magazines, all flashy half baked bullshit that will never work on a real opponent.
     
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    IMP OBLIVION RECORDER

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    Oh yes and Hellboy Hansen is a total MMA noob who doesnt know what works ~~
     
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    GJJNY Purple Belt

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    Never said that. That technique needs a few perfect things going on in order to work, and I highly doubt that would ever work in 99% of times attempted. Sure it looks great when applied to a passive body, but try that in a real match where anyone with a bit of sense will have his chin tucked and neck defended. Then even if you get one arm around the neck and the guy bucks hard you'll get a chance to kiss the mat as your mouth bounces off of it.
     

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