Is there anything more pathetic than strikers complaining about "Crotch Sniffing" ?

[Rampage_Jackson]

No. It's the most pathetic shit ever. I thought fans were too smart to buy into that excuse too. And crotch sniffing is a viciously homophobic thing to call it as well. Be like aldo, gsp, leon and work on your wrestling. It's funny jorge says that but he's a damn good wrestler himself. Nate and conor are the worst offenders.

I don't agree with the Diaz brothers completely, but you sort of get why they bitch. They were honestly meant for a different era of fight, with longer fights and fewer sanctions IMO. They bitch about being point-fought because realistically they are so damn hard to genuinely beat or finish. They are BJJ studs with infinite cardio and iron chins. In legit scraps until someone couldn't continue they would be better than they are in the sport fighting era.

 

[BoomStronk]

Totally disagree with your point.

Wrestling is not the most ancient martial art. That's a totally arbitrary starting point, no more valid than striking in terms of most ancient.

The real most ancient martial art is biting, followed closely by smashing a skull with a rock when your opponent looks away.

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

Totally disagree with your point.

Wrestling is not the most ancient martial art. That's a totally arbitrary starting point, no more valid than striking in terms of most ancient.

The real most ancient martial art is biting, followed closely by smashing a skull with a rock when your opponent looks away.

I’m ready to see the ancient art of chasing your opponent to the edge of a cliff and forcing them to jump to their death incorporated into MMA fights.

 

[Oilcitymo]

Stand and Bang is a thing of honor.

unlike this thread.

Unfortunately, I'm not tall enough to stand and bang. I need a lower bed frame

 

[Dirge]

Ask someone who got body slammed on concrete if wrestling is effective in fighting. If judo is the gentle way of smashing someone with the Earth then wrestling is the violent way of smashing someone with the Earth.

Yep. I got picked up and smashed in a parking lot outside a bar by a guy who clearly knew his wrestling when I was 19. I ended up in the hospital afterwards. My boxing background wasn't much use in that particular evening.

 

[campbecc]

Yep. I got picked up and smashed in a parking lot outside a bar by a guy who clearly knew his wrestling when I was 19. I ended up in the hospital afterwards. My boxing background wasn't much use in that particular evening.

Street fights almost always end very quickly. Wrestlers get knocked out by a punch as well.

 

[Dirge]

Street fights almost always end very quickly. Wrestlers get knocked out by a punch as well.

That was my strategy but he shot for a double and I went for a ride.

 

[Beherit]

Agree 100% with your point.

But how is getting taken down on a hard surface a sure death sentence?

on the concrete ur done on the ground, ur head will get smash so badly. Any one who get taken down in a street fight is almost sure to lose.

 

[JoeRoganPenn]

Probably someone complaining about fighters complaints

 

[MichaelT]

Crotch sniffing is a myth. Hasn't happened since early UFC days. No one just holds people down anymore without doing anything, because the ref will stand you up asap.

It's also funny how you never see people complain when it's their teammate doing it, only when they have something to lose themselves. What's even funnier, and to answer the thread question, more pathetic, is guys who whine about crotch sniffing shooting for takedowns when they fight a better striker

 

[acannxr]

Usually to goad wrestlers to stand with them and not utilize their wrestling...

Looking at you Conor and Masvidal...

Wrestling is the most ancient martial art and the most effective in a real 1v1 fight, if you get taken down on a hard surface, you're dead.

Then we got these pussies pretending that it's "not real fighting" because they can't grapple to save their lives.

Perhaps they should GTFO and Kickbox somewhere else. This is MMA, if you let another man grabs and manhandles you, it's because you're an inferior fighter, and you should thank God your head is being slammed on a soft surface inside the cage instead of the pavement in a real fight.

Grapplers who beg strikers to fight on the ground are just as pathetic:

 

[DeathBecomesMe]

Usually to goad wrestlers to stand with them and not utilize their wrestling...

Looking at you Conor and Masvidal...

Wrestling is the most ancient martial art and the most effective in a real 1v1 fight, if you get taken down on a hard surface, you're dead.

Then we got these pussies pretending that it's "not real fighting" because they can't grapple to save their lives.

Perhaps they should GTFO and Kickbox somewhere else. This is MMA, if you let another man grabs and manhandles you, it's because you're an inferior fighter, and you should thank God your head is being slammed on a soft surface inside the cage instead of the pavement in a real fight.

And there should be more liberal rules for the fighter being ground and pounded. Upkicks at anytime, knees to a downed opponent for example. Also get rid of the cage, hate the cage, if the fight spills into the stands and fans, so be it. I hate when a fighter pushes another fighter against the cage and stalls, boring, boring, boring!

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Usually to goad wrestlers to stand with them and not utilize their wrestling...

Looking at you Conor and Masvidal...

Wrestling is the most ancient martial art and the most effective in a real 1v1 fight, if you get taken down on a hard surface, you're dead.

Then we got these pussies pretending that it's "not real fighting" because they can't grapple to save their lives.

Perhaps they should GTFO and Kickbox somewhere else. This is MMA, if you let another man grabs and manhandles you, it's because you're an inferior fighter, and you should thank God your head is being slammed on a soft surface inside the cage instead of the pavement in a real fight.

Yeah...this is MMA...theres other sports if u dont want to deal with all the parts of the sport...

Its pretty stupid argument that people have against grappling considering A) its been around forever B) UFC was founded by grapplers..C) the fights start fairly...everyone starts standing up its up to you to handle your shit in each area of MMA...just sour losers and non martial artist attitudes come up with such an argument...real martial artists understand it and rise or adjust to the challenge...look at young GSP compared to title reign GSP...he understood the importance of rounding out his game and thats what made him so effective later on when earlier in his career he was more of karate style aggressive striker

 

[DeathBecomesMe]

I disagree about wrestling being the most ancient martial style. Even before ancient times, there were the times of old between humanity's reign and supremacy of the primates. During this time, humans learned to harness their primal rage and implement styles that make use of our natural power and instincts.

The famous "monkey style", showcased in Bloodsport, was an example of this. These styles predate all ancient styles, and might even have an evolutionary logic for their use and efficacy.

The most ancient form of recorded fighting with humans involve weapons. When mankind realized they could not hang fighting animals hand-to-hand, paw-to-paw, mankind realized it is time to invent some weapons. Bears, lions, chimps, gorillas all laugh at watching humans fight hand-to-hand.

 

[2004 account]

There's a difference between grappling to find a finish and anti fighting.

 

[Murder_KickHC]

Lust for jocks is ruining the sport.
If you wanna sniff men so bad then go have some private bathtub parties instead of doing that shit in the octagon and ruining the whole event for all the fans who paid to see fighting.

 

[DivineMind]

The most ancient form of recorded fighting with humans involve weapons. When mankind realized they could not hang fighting animals hand-to-hand, paw-to-paw, mankind realized it is time to invent some weapons. Bears, lions, chimps, gorillas all laugh at watching humans fight hand-to-hand.

That's not quite true. When an early humanoid witnessed the brutal slaughter of their tribe members by sabertooth tiger or mastodon, it often triggered a physiological response I can only characterize as "primal rage".

In this rageful state, the humanoid was capable of tremendous physical feats, including grabbing the predator and squeezing viciously until they broke the spine. Numerous enraged humanoids would crowd the predator and wail their fists down on it, often crushing bone and tearing flesh.

This was the earliest known form of human combat. A type of martial art derived solely from cruel instinct and evolutionary mastery.

 

[dangerousD]

Like when Uncle Dana promotes a fight and says “you bet this one won’t goto the ground!”

 

[campbecc]

That was my strategy but he shot for a double and I went for a ride.

I was not good at either boxing or wrestling but I can say on concrete neither has a huge advantage. Going for a takedown on concrete would be so painful.

 

[DivineMind]

@Volador is an expert in early human anthropology. He can enlighten us more on humanoid combat forms extant in prehistory