Media Is there any current UFC LW that Khabib wouldn't be a GIGANTIC favourite over?

[DestinedAussie]

johnson almost turned his lights out, Justin left him barely able to walk, Dustin damaged his neck. His known for taking a shot or two to get the fight where he wants. Just because he didn't cut much doesn't mean he didn't take damage. Khabib's chin was one of his best qualities.

 

[matrixremaster]

Right? lol Khabib haters are nuts

"Khabib is not the kind of fighter that takes no damage"

Meanwhile...

 

[matrixremaster]

johnson almost turned his lights out, Justin left him barely able to walk, Dustin damaged his neck. His known for taking a shot or two to get the fight where he wants. Just because he didn't cut much doesn't mean he didn't take damage. Khabib's chin was one of his best qualities.

You must know you're grasping at straws here right?

 

[DestinedAussie]

You must know you're grasping at straws here right?

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[matrixremaster]

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Your gif didn't work let me repost it

Is that really it? Khabib's entire career of 29 fights and that's the best you can come up with? lol

He took MJ down easily two seconds after this and put the beating of a lifetime on him.

 

[SteelEz]

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An MMA fighter was punched! What are the odds?

But yeah, your own posts are proof Khabib barely ever got hit, to the point it's literally countable on one hand. He rarely ever got hit clean.

Even Dustin, the best boxer in the UFC talked about this. Look it up.

 

[ComfortablyNumb55]

Your gif didn't work let me repost it

Is that really it? Khabib's entire career of 29 fights and that's the best you can come up with? lol

He took MJ down easily two seconds after this and put the beating of a lifetime on him.

14 of his first 16 opponents don't have a Wikipedia page.

So 29 is disingenuous.

However, he did take little damage for around 13-15 legitimate fights.

 

[matrixremaster]

14 of his first 16 opponents don't have a Wikipedia page.

So 29 is disingenuous.

However, he did take little damage for around 13-15 legitimate fights.

Dagestani's without wikipedia pages are better than most UFC fighters.

And most UFC fighters lose a few of their pre UFC fights. Not Khabib.

 

[Dionysian]

Wait what, wasn’t Islams gameplan that he will strike and K.O Volks? And afterwards he told us that maybe it was not very wise, and he should have wrestled more?

Pretty clear example of the gameplan problem yep.

Khabib said pre-fight the plan should be to clinch.
Islam said pre-fight he was going for the KO.

Pretty clear, during the fight, which gameplan was better. Islam had great success in the clinch (striking too but yeah)

 

[Starman]

Who?

 

[CedricBee]

have to close the distance intelligently to get a takedown.
sometimes it takes longer than others depending on takedown defense.
justin is no slouch when it comes to keeping the fight standing,
and that is why i think it took most of the round before the takedown.
fresh justin is hard to take down, tired justin, not so much. explains why it was so easy in the second round.

i don't believe for a minute that khabib wanted to stand with justin as long as he did.
you can believe it. but not me.

Where do you get Khabib struggling in that round, but yet he was 1 for 1 on TDs? I thought it was obvious that Khabib wanted to keep the pressure on Gaethje even if it meant eating shots. With the exception of the first round against Conor, Khabib’s notorious for not respecting his opponents offense.

Only thing he struggled with was dealing with the strikes that come from pressuring a guy like Justin Gaethje. And even then, it was a round that could be judged either way. So it’s not like his gameplan wasn’t working.

Pressure fighters by nature risk getting hit early in a striking bout. But for Khabib v Gaethje it could be seen as effective because the pressure helped close the distance for the TD. It’s obvious he wanted to shoot from a shorter distance, at the expense of eating shots.

I’m not disrespecting Gaethje’s power, but Khabib was, plain and simple. Dustin literally said he couldn’t keep Khabib off him. Plenty of posters and fighters like Chandler will tell you Dustin hits harder than Gaethje. Khabib had a great chin.

 

[matrixremaster]

Where do you get Khabib struggling in that round, but yet he was 1 for 1 on TDs? I thought it was obvious that Khabib wanted to keep the pressure on Gaethje even if it meant eating shots. With the exception of the first round against Conor, Khabib’s notorious for not respecting his opponents offense.

Only thing he struggled with was dealing with the strikes that come from pressuring a guy like Justin Gaethje. And even then, it was a round that could be judged either way. So it’s not like his gameplan wasn’t working.

Pressure fighters by nature risk getting hit early in a striking bout. But for Khabib v Gaethje it could be seen as effective because the pressure helped close the distance for the TD. It’s obvious he wanted to shoot from a shorter distance, at the expense of eating shots.

I’m not disrespecting Gaethje’s power, but Khabib was, plain and simple. Dustin literally said he couldn’t keep Khabib off him. Plenty of posters and fighters like Chandler will tell you Dustin hits harder than Gaethje. Khabib had a great chin.

Khabib said Justin hits the hardest so I guess it depends on who you ask.

 

[meast]

I think Chandler would actually be a great match up if he could avoid gassing. I hope we get to see him against Islam

 

[humdizzle]

If we are just going by the question asked then yes. Khabib would be the betting favorite over everyone including volk.

Maybe not a gigantic favorite over volk though who even though he lost a UD.... He did show he can stop takedowns and get up. Islam's striking won him the match to be real. And I don't feel khabib is at that level. Would be interesting.

Usman N would be a very bad match up for volk.

 

[matrixremaster]

If we are just going by the question asked then yes. Khabib would be the betting favorite over everyone including volk.

Maybe not a gigantic favorite over volk though who even though he lost a UD.... He did show he can stop takedowns and get up. Islam's striking won him the match to be real. And I don't feel khabib is at that level. Would be interesting.

Usman N would be a very bad match up for volk.

Islam is currently a -370 against Volk in a rematch.

Khabib would probably be -500 at minimum.

 

[humdizzle]

Islam is currently a -370 against Volk in a rematch.

Khabib would probably be -500 at minimum.

I would agree with that for the most part. Islam with proper rehydration would do much better.

I guess it just depends on how you define 'huge" favorite. Khabib would be in the -1000s against Charles, poirier, gaethje.

 

[Street Bishop]

We'll never find out.

 

[matrixremaster]

We'll never find out because the guy bailed

We do know though... he'd be a giganatic favourite over everyone.

 

[Pious Augustus]

This is why Khabib fans aren't taken seriously, they present these sort of arguments which lack IQ.

Here it is again:
-Khabib's past opponents beating new contenders doesn't mean Khabib just beat that new contender.
-Khabib's training partner who has the same neckbeard beating new opponents doesn't mean Khabib just beat those new opponents.

Wanna know how I know this argument isn't sustainable? Because when neckbeard and his past opponents start losing badly to new opponents you would be the first to say it doesn't mean Khabib would lose to them!

weak argument imo, of course if you claim to be better than a guy then you should be able to beat the guys he's beat, at least, and even if you did beat them, it's not a guarantee you would beat the guy.

it's only logical to set a minimum requirement of not losing to the guys he beat in order for them (Khabib fans) to entertain the idea of an equal/better fighter, but even if that requirement is met, it's still not a tell that he would beat Khabib.

otherwise, I could argue Greg Hardy would beat Jones, and you can't argue against that since they haven't fought each other yet, and Hardy losing to other fighters can never be a clear indication of who's the better fighter.

 

[HHJ]

He would clearly be 140 - 0 by his later retirement and the odds would reflect this

"Cmon Khabib,let me stuff at least one takedown my kids is watchin"