Is the DDT a practical MMA technique?

[Destroid]

Obviously it's well known in pro wrestling, but is it applicable to MMA? I've seen quite a few times guys stun themselves on takedowns or even completely KO themselves (Gray Maynard), is it possible to actually aim to make a guy faceplant off a double leg?

 

[Bebop]

no, it's illegal in mma.

 

[Destroid]

Ah, covered by the spiking rule I guess? Although you can slam people on the back of their heads, or on the front as Belcher did to Cote.

Well, regardless of it's legality, is it do-able?

 

[KJGould]

Don't see how it can be illegal if you 'pull guard' with it in MMA. Could potentially happen from a guillotine attempt.

 

[Freezing Winds**]

a DDT as far a wrestling does not end up with the guy in your guard.

i have seen someone get DDT'd in a real fight in 7th grade and the dude was fucked up.

no in mma if you jump guard and get someone in a guillotine you will not be DQ'd if the guy's head happens to hit the ground.
but i think a straight up ddt would get you DQ'd

 

[SuperSuperRambo]

Mark Kerr knocked himself out with one. Then his opponent acted really disrespectful like he had just accomplished something incredible. Then they punished him by making him fight Crocop. Good times were had by all.

 

[Vaga]

practical? No. It's doable though.

 

[fadingxero]

I think Kimbo Slice did a variant of the DDT by accident.
Doable but difficult, seems that you need your opponent in a standing guillotine,and he needs to drive forward. Most people would probably body punch or something, not continue to drive their weight forward. If they do that you can fall backwards and...DDT

 

[Doctor Gonzo]

 

[AboveThisFire]

I was taking a training partners back standing and he wrapped my head and then jumped forward and spiked my head into the mat a'la DDT... it knocked me out, gave me a class 2 concussion and I lost partial sensation on the left half of my body for a few hours and had to go to the hospital.

So... I'm gonna say that you shouldn't fucking ddt people. Cool?

 

[KiddMuscle**]

DDT is completely absurd.

Stone Cold Stunner though... That's a different story.

 

[BSFT]

I can't help but think that the athletic commission would frown upon the post-DDT-dump-a-snake-from-a-duffelbag-onto-the-unconscious-opponent.

 

[Supereem]

I think someone died training in Peru when a guillotine turned into one.

 

[KJGould]

I didn't think it was Peru, I thought it was USA and it ended in paralysis. In that instance though the guy doing the takedown did so recklessly. You really can't just charge in head first.

Also anyone spiking you in practice ought to be banned from the gym. The only spiking that seems to be alllowed, in MMA, is when you're standing and they have your back and you do a front flip. They're the one holding on to you but again, MMA not submission grappling.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

Yes on concrete. Put them in a guillotine then when they are about to go out do a DDT on them.

 

[Ergo]

In the gi there's a kind of DDT that can be very effective

at 2:30 here:

 

[Drew Foster]

I'm gonna take a legit shot at this.

First of all, the DDT can work very well as it is obviously very dangerous. If you land it and it doesn't stun them or knock them out, they're past your guard, and that's a big problem in MMA. Especially because they won't be too happy you just fucking DDT'd them.

As far as the legality, it probably IS legal in the unified MMA rules. Their definition of spiking involved "inverting the opponent before dropping them on the top of their head", which basically means.... piledriver. Even within the past 2 years, there have been two or three actual piledrivers in the UFC that have caused serious stunning or directly led to the end of the fight and the refs never called it. Even a great ref like Herb Dean didn't call Nate Marquardt for piledriving a guy, so a DDT will probably fly.

Also, there are different DDTs. You can plant them on their face, forehead, or top of the head. The first version would probably fly while the second version would be more likely to get you DQ'd. (This is all 100% guesswork BTW)

 

[sha]

I could be wrong since I've never had a DDT done to me (and hope it stays that way), but it seems that there's nothing preventing the person being DDT'd from protecting their head with at least one of their arms. So I don't think it would be that effective in MMA, even if it were legal.

 

[Drew Foster]

I could be wrong since I've never had a DDT done to me (and hope it stays that way), but it seems that there's nothing preventing the person being DDT'd from protecting their head with at least one of their arms. So I don't think it would be that effective in MMA, even if it were legal.

Yea, you're pretty much at the mercy of the person doing the DDT. Your best bet is to tuck your chin and actually try to kind of somersault into the DDT, so that you can roll through it instead of taking it right on the face or the top of the head.

 

[Drew Foster]

I'm just hoping to see a Burning Hammer in MMA one day. Notice how even if there was a way to break this fall (there's not), it doesn't happen.



Misawa (RIP) couldn't walk for like a week after he took this move. I believe he took at least 2 or 3 when it was all said and done (I used to be a Japanese pro wrestling dork in middle school).