Is Oliveira the chinniest LW?

SirKratos said:
Do you even know how chins work?

"PS, some of you wise guys will say Islam. But he got caught once, it happens."

Islam got caught once and he lost half of his concsciousness once, thats what being chinny is. His brain scrambled 1 out of 1 time, thats why he folded like a lawn chair on his way down.

Oliveira got knocked down a billion times and only in a few of them he actually went out. Having a bad chin is all about losing consciousness
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Actually, Charles has never gone out in any of his fights. If you look at his fights where you got TKO'd he wasn't knocked out
 
moosaev said:
Lmao. Analyzing this comment it sounds like you’re butt hurt that people like islam. Not everybody has to like the same thing dude. Some people like watching fighters who go out and dominate without getting touched. Islam has more fans than charles btw.
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Yeah there are a lot of bandwagoners/glory hunters out there who will watch his fight due to sharing the same religion, there are a lot of Muslims out there. There's nothing wrong with that and good for him to have that following. He's still boring though. I reckon half of them don't even bother to watch his whole fight, just the "highlights".
 
Just Creed said:
Yeah there are a lot of bandwagoners/glory hunters out there who will watch his fight due to sharing the same religion, there are a lot of Muslims out there. There's nothing wrong with that and good for him to have that following. He's still boring though. I reckon half of them don't even bother to watch his whole fight, just the "highlights".
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Lmaoo here we go bringing religion into it.
 


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moosaev said:
Oliveira is diminished by his chin not me, I’m just observing bud. Don’t be sensitive, we’re talking here.
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Please explain how Oliveira is diminished by his own chin. You have failed to explain on any of your posts.

Gaethje Fight - Oliveira won with finish
Poirier Fight - Oliveira won with finish
Teymur Fight - Oliveira won with finish
Cub Swanson - Oliveira lost but probably was about to go down from a liver shot that had just occurred before the head shot.

Every one of the opponents listed above have multiple KD's to their credit. Please provide a weak opponent with no other KD's versus Charles to make your weak chin argument.
 
Just Creed said:
So you don't think he has a large Muslim following?
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Of course he does. Colby has a large white American following. Conor has a large Irish American following. Part of being a fan is in relating to who you watch. It’s funny that this gets pointed out only with the Muslim fighters.
 
moosaev said:
Of course he does. Colby has a large white American following. Conor has a large Irish American following. Part of being a fan is in relating to who you watch. It’s funny that this gets pointed out only with the Muslim fighters.
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Oh stop making it an islamaphobic thing, get a grip of yourself. I really don't understand the problem with what I said, you're just being sensitive

Anyway, you mentioned that he has more fans and I'm implying it's probably due to his fellow Muslims. He certainly can't have that huge a fanbase due to his style, he's not an exciting performer. I genuinely can't understand how someone with no charisma and a boring style could actually earn that many fans by their performance alone
 
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Very likely. He gets rocked, wobbled and dropped constantly.
 
He gets stunned frequently, but it still is working with his skill set. He is a risk taking striker without the best defense. But he's improved dramatically in the offensive aspect of striking. Will that willingness risk cost him? It could over time, but so far it has paid off for him. I doubt he will change what is currently working for him now that he's at the top of the heap.
 
moosaev said:
Lmao. Analyzing this comment it sounds like you’re butt hurt that people like islam.
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LMFAO, the IRONY is astronomical right now with this kid, as YOU are extraordinarily butt hurt so badly, that you have given Charles a key to reside rent-free inside that jealous mind you have, because other people enjoy Charles over Islam.

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I'm not sure. Tony fought Gaethje and Chandler, and Tony's chin didn't survive. Imagine if he fought Poirier, too.

Chandler fought Tony, and Gaethje, and got knocked down in both of those fights too.

Hooker fought Poirier and Chandler, and his chin didn't survive.

Basically what I'm saying is if you're fighting the guys that oliveira has been fighting, then you are going to take damage.

Oliveira came out of those fights better than most.
 
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This eras Eddie Alvarez. He gets rocked often but never knocked out cold.
 
fortheo said:
Basically what I'm saying is if you're fighting the guys that oliveira has been fighting, then you are going to take damage.

Oliveira came out of those fights better than most.
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Yeah, that's a really fair point that gets overlooked.

Sometimes people are too focused on Charles being knocked down in comparison to Khabib, but that's too myopic a focus. Using the fairer and broader standard of how Charles held up compared to a lot of the other opponents Poirier, Gaethje, and Chandler have repeatedly hit flush, he hasn't done too bad.

Part of that is Poirier and Gaethje being too scared to follow up with GnP and allowing Oliveira a few important moments to clear his head, but even factoring that in, Oliveira's chin is average at worst, and he recovers better than many.

Not sure how cracked he is going forward after so much defensive irresponsibility amd damage, but we'll see.
 
fortheo said:
I'm not sure. Tony fought Gaethje and Chandler, and Tony's chin didn't survive. Imagine if he fought Poirier, too.

Chandler fought Tony, and Gaethje, and got knocked down in both of those fights too.

Hooker fought Poirier and Chandler, and his chin didn't survive.

Basically what I'm saying is if you're fighting the guys that oliveira has been fighting, then you are going to take damage.

Oliveira came out of those fights better than most.
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What damage did Khabib take from fighting Gaethje and Poirier?
 
moosaev said:
What damage did Khabib take from fighting Gaethje and Poirier?
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None, but lets not act like khabib is the definition of the norm. Alvarez fought Gaethje, Poirier, and chandler too and took more damage than oliveira did, too. Basically, when compared to his peers who faced similar competition, Oliveira's chin has held up better than average.
 
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fortheo said:
None, but lets not act like khabib is the definition of the norm. Alvarez fought Gaethje, Poirier, and chandler too and took more damage than oliveira did, too.
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Ok but Oliveira fans can’t have it both ways, I can’t count how many times I’ve seen them say Olives beat Gaethje and Poirier quicker than Khabib. By the same token Khabib was never in danger and Oliveira almost got finished by both. Speaks to the levels between them.
 
I mean anyone who goes toe to toe without backing down against the best strikers in the division will appear chinny.

And I don't have science to back this part up but I suspect that hard shots to the head cause damage over time that makes you "more" chinny. Or perhaps it is a mental phenomenon and not the physical damage--it's like conditioning your brain to turn the lights out when you get hit.

Our brains are weird man. Once you do something 1 time, even if you are 50 and never did it before (whatever it may be), it is very easy for that to become a habit or even automatic response to the same stimulus. I'm not just talking fighting. I mean everything.
 
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