Rumored Is it true that the Giant Taekwondo Olympian was cut from the UFC because Olympians cost more?

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The UFC saw the writing on the wall and got rid of him the moment they could. He was already in his late 30s attempting a new combat sport where he was largely untested in any meaningful way. It didn't even require him fighting ranked opposition -- or indeed, actual grapplers -- before he was getting tossed around and mauled.

I mean on paper Acosta and Lane were both softball lay-ups at the time. Lane is one of the chinniest Heavyweights I've ever seen and relies on his athleticism and length to win striking exchanges -- something he wouldn't be able to safely do against Robelis. In his fight prior to Robelis he tried becoming a grappler to beat a pure kickboxer, thus leading to him rapidly gassing out and getting murdered in Round 2. Acosta has aged better than I frankly ever expected, but he was still more or less viewed as a pure volume boxer with little to no grappling.

Robelis was never going to amount to anything and seemed unable or unwilling to shore up what was a massive hole in his game. And yeah I wouldn't be surprised if he got brought on at a slightly higher rate than the standard 12/12, but who knows?

Could the UFC sanction a special rules fight and keep the same commission? Say they bring in Joshua. He loves gimmick fights and stand-up but doesnt want ground game. Could they make a special rules fight and not have to change the board of directors?

 

[PeterGriffin]

Dudes online say his TKD career was bullshit and he relied only on his size advantage.. kinda like bob sapp in kickboxing but in a pussified fencing.

I can totally see it. His defense is horrible, and if it weren't for his size advantage he'd get picked apart easily.

 

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It may not be the fight we want, but it's the fight we deserve.

Garcia teeing off on an O'Malley thinking he can stand a trade would be fun for as long as it lasted though. Ryan with 4oz'ers and no wrestling in the fight? Sean gets fucking battered senseless.

omalley can just trip in the clinch and then it's over for him. Garcia will laugh at his punches, and if you think Ryan had fast hands in boxing gloves...

 

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You mind telling the rest of us who the "Giant Taekwondo Olympian" is?

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he will remain nameless.

 

[Mammothman]

Robelis? He had power and good striking but he was a can in MMA, he was clueless at the game.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

He got cut because he couldn't defend a takedown to defend his life and was getting taken down by world renowned wrestlers like Waldo Cortes-Acosta.

The blueprint on how to beat him was too obvious and if they'd kept him you're just guaranteed to be spending 15 minutes watching him fail to get up.

 

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He got cut because he couldn't defend a takedown to defend his life and was getting taken down by world renowned wrestlers like Waldo Cortes-Acosta.

The blueprint on how to beat him was too obvious and if they'd kept him you're just guaranteed to be spending 15 minutes watching him fail to get up.

Black beast didnt give a shit about grappling either.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Black beast didnt give a shit about grappling either.

Yeah but black beast is the just stand up guy. We're discussing the just lie down guy.

 

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Yeah but black beast is the just stand up guy. We're discussing the just lie down guy.

he wasn't subbed.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

he wasn't subbed.

That's even worse. At least if you get subbed we don't have to watch you flop around on your back like a fish for 15 minutes.

Also I doubt the average fan in the stands gets subbed by Waldo.

 

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Someone speculates it was a 3 fight contract.

That would suggest they actually bought him.

 

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Also I doubt the average fan in the stands gets subbed by Waldo.

Say what you want about Waldo, I don't think Ngannou can knock him out. Not only did he take a giant KO punchers best shots, he ate a front kick too which knocks out everybody in this sport.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Say what you want about Waldo, I don't think Ngannou can knock him out. Not only did he take a giant KO punchers best shots, he ate a front kick too which knocks out everybody in this sport.

He has one of the best chins of all time.

I don't think he's a very good offensive grappler though.

 

[Safton]

Could the UFC sanction a special rules fight and keep the same commission? Say they bring in Joshua. He loves gimmick fights and stand-up but doesnt want ground game. Could they make a special rules fight and not have to change the board of directors?

I mean, if they wanted to I'm sure they could do an exhibition match with a different ruleset and air it during one of their broadcasts. I don't think they'd go for it, though.

Acosta would probably beat this gable stevenson, no?

Maybe? Gable is still a massive unknown. Acosta is at least nominally proven at the higher levels and he's shored up his defensive wrestling considerably. That being said, Gable is a tremendous athlete from a formidable wrestling base who also happens to have knockout power in his hands.

Normally I wouldn't entertain the notion of a 2-0 regional can-crusher beating a Top 5 guy... but this is Heavyweight and Gable is not your average can-crusher. Neither outcome would surprise me.

Black beast didnt give a shit about grappling either.

That's the meme, but it's not true. Derrick Lewis's "just get up" has some technical basis to it along with the athleticism he uses. He introduced some offensive wrestling into his game, most notably in the Tuivasa fight. His submission defense has always been above-average for a Heavyweight.

Say what you want about Waldo, I don't think Ngannou can knock him out. Not only did he take a giant KO punchers best shots, he ate a front kick too which knocks out everybody in this sport.

He has one of the best chins of all time.

I don't think he's a very good offensive grappler though.

Waldo got KO'd by randos like three times on some regional boxing undercards before transitioning to MMA. He also was reacting very weirdly to punches from Spivac, of all people.

His chin is crazily inconsistent, but he's definitely tough.

 

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I mean, if they wanted to I'm sure they could do an exhibition match with a different ruleset and air it during one of their broadcasts. I don't think they'd go for it, though.

why are One FC open to cross over duels? Cooler dudes?

 

[Safton]

why are One FC open to cross over duels? Cooler dudes?

Different mindset, different fanbase, different region, different commissions, etc. They use a different MMA ruleset, too.

 

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Different mindset, different fanbase, different region, different commissions, etc. They use a different MMA ruleset, too.

But it's quite likely this TaeKwondo athlete was purchased by the UFC as a selling point (which failed). They didn't recruit him to raise the level of competition.

 

[Momentosis]

Tony hasnt been in the UFC for a while.

Bro just straight up ignoring this post lol.

The answer is simple. Robelis looked absolutely god awful against the worst guys in the HW division.

Tony before he was let go still had a long story'd history in the UFC, was still competing against the very best in the UFC, and showed flashes of his old self though they were far and few in between.

 

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Bro just straight up ignoring this post lol.

It was a quote from a youtube comment. just an example.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

There are guys with 8 straight losses that are still there

They are more entertaining being KO'd constantly than the guy who looks intimidating but has the worst ground game ever seen post 2002 resulting in him getting laid on by slobs.