Is it Ronda's plan to box with Holm?

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Do you think she will just try and box with Holm to prove her striking in this fight? We all know that she could just grapple Holm to a quick sub. Is this some sort of test of her hands? I mean, seriously, we all know this fight just doesn't make sense.
 
Do you think she will just try and box with Holm to prove her striking in this fight? We all know that she could just grapple Holm to a quick sub. Is this some sort of test of her hands? I mean, seriously, we all know this fight just doesn't make sense.

We'll get confirmation in the rematch.
 
of course this fight doesn't make sense, but unless Cyborg stops preventing this fight from happening, this is the best we'll get. Or we could have her beat Tate third time
 
Ronda via ko. Pennington landed at will.
 
Cyborg needs to stop ducking Ronda and cut to 135.

The world wants to see a championship fight.
 
it depends. Idk how holm's striking defense is. She has a pretty high output but im not sure how well her defense is if ronda pushes the pace and starts backing her down, hopefully she can handle pressure. I just wan't to see an interesting fight, but if ronda clinches its probably over.
 
it depends. Idk how holm's striking defense is. She has a pretty high output but im not sure how well her defense is if ronda pushes the pace and starts backing her down, hopefully she can handle pressure. I just wan't to see an interesting fight, but if ronda clinches its probably over.

Love the name man. Just started Skyrim 2 weeks ago for the first time. :cool:


Actually Holm could chip away, keeping distance from Rousey. Jack Slack wrote an interesting article "Killing The Queen."

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/killing-the-queen-ronda-rousey
 

Connor>Slack.



http://www.bloodyelbow.com/ufc-184-pennington-vs-holm-technique-recap-2

Holly Holm had a lot of buzz coming into the UFC, riding a successful boxing career and a 7-0 MMA record into her Octagon debut against tough-out Raquel Pennington. Prior to the event I wrote about some of the limitations of her striking style, notably her lack of strong punching mechanics. Pennington provided a nice opportunity for Holm to prove herself capable of more and, unfortunately for the 33 year-old contender, she showed more of the same against a substantially higher level of competition, just squeaking by with a deserved but essentially unsatisfying split decision win as a result.


Let's take a look at one of the MMA-specific consequences of those flawed fundamentals, on which Pennington capitalized throughout the bout.

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1. Holm drops her weight, preparing herself to punch.

2. Her elbow flares as she drives forward with a straight left, parried by Pennington.

3. As she is wont to do, Holm steps her left foot forward, squaring her stance as she attempts a shift right hook. Pennington changes levels and bobs underneath this punch.

4. Holm now finds herself in clinch range, and extends both arms to shove Pennington away before she can strike.

5. Too late--Pennington cracks Holm with a right hook across the jaw as she struggles to back out of range.

Holm is an out-fighter in the purest sense. Her technique isn't perfect, but she is most comfortable on the outside, moving side to side and using her straight punches and kicks to keep her opponent at range. This desire to maintain range is so strong in Holm that she often finds herself flailing to reestablish her preferred distance. This wouldn't be such a problem if Holm's method of punching didn't put her right into mid or close range.

Take a look at the punches above (watch the GIF if you can). Holm telegraphs her cross by settling her weight and cocking her punch the moment before she attacks, doing nothing to disguise this movement with her lead hand. As she throws the left, her elbow flares, not only diminishing the power in the punch but making the strike even more obvious to Pennington, who parries the blow effortlessly.

At this point Holm wants to continue attacking, but she doesn't seem to know how to throw a technical left hook. She only knows how to shift, switching stance mid-punch and marching forward to land it. This can work at times--Holm managed to drop Katie Merrill with a shift punch to the solar plexus--but only when the opponent respects Holm's punches enough to back up as she comes forward. Against a stalwart bruiser like Pennington, the shift carries Holm, with her knees unbent and her hips square, right into close range, the last place she wants to be.

Pennington isn't the world's greatest wrestler, but Holm still did an admirable job of adjusting her hips and moving her feet to deny her opponent's takedown attempts on the inside. The troubling thing is how often she allowed herself to get into that position in the first place. Even worse, Holm found herself being outstruck by Pennington in this range, certainly not a smart look for a supposedly dangerous boxer.

Here's another look at that careless dive into the wrong range, which Holm carelessly replicated all night.

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1. Holm starts at very long range--far too long to initiate a punch without being timed and avoided.

2. A throwaway jab accompanies her advance, but does little to disguise her intentions.

3. Pennington's defense is nothing special, but she still manages to parry Holm's left straight . . .

4. . . . and she once again ducks under the shift right hook.

5. Now Pennington gets in on Holm's hips, and the two start battling for position.

Take a look at the position of Holm's body in frames three through five. Leaning forward, legs nearly straight, off-balance and feet squared. Pennington's level change isn't particularly strong, and her ability to finish strong on takedown attempts is virtually nonexistent. Holm was certainly more than capable of stuffing every one of Pennington's attempts. Still, the fact that she found herself fighting off takedowns so frequently is not a good sign. Once she does wind up in the clinch, there are more than enough flaws for a skilled clinch grappler (of which one just happens to rule Holm's division) to exploit.

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1. Pennington is in on Holm's hips, but fails to connect her hands.

2. As Holm slides her left forearm inside to crossface Pennington, the latter is forced to slide from double leg to clinch.

3. Keeping Holm in close with a left underhook, Pennington tries a right uppercut, but misses.

4. Holm tries a knee, but Pennington absorbs it with her right arm.

5. Now Pennington stands up straight and winds up for a right hand upstairs.

6. Holm has no control of Pennington's posture, nor the angle to avoid her right hand. She takes a short cross clean on the jaw.

7. Trying to get back, Holm charges forward, but leaves herself open, head forward and feet square.

8. Pennington easily stymies her assault with a quick, clean jab.

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Holm's clinch, by comparison, is a pretty slapdash affair. Rather than gripping the back of Pennington's head, she clasps her hands around her neck, giving her substantially less control over the other woman's posture. It doesn't end up mattering all that much, because Holm does very little to affect that posture in the first place, and Pennington still finds herself standing upright and in position to punch when Holm begins to load her hips for the knee. And that punch has no trouble connecting cleanly, given the foot of space between Holm and Pennington's heads.

For Holm, boxing was never about fighting on equal ground. Hers was a movement-based style, in which she would circle the ring, shoot in with quick and plentiful combinations, and then tie up, waiting for the ref to separate her from her opponent. With the exception of her newfound kicking prowess, she has adapted this strategy quite literally to MMA, changing very little about the way she approaches her fights.

Unfortunately for Holly, MMA refs are decidedly less eager to break up clinches, and MMA fighters are often quite keen to engage in that range. To enjoy a long and successful career in the UFC, Holm will need to either adopt a more fundamentally sound punching method--one that doesn't send her caroming into a range where she must outgrapple her opponent--or develop a more fundamentally sound clinch game to make up for the fact that she's going to spend a lot of time there. With Ronda Rousey licking her chops at the top of the heap, waiting for fresh meat, Holm would be best served to make this change sooner rather than later.

*Credit to the phenomenal Connor Ruebusch, one of the absolute best mma analysts.
 
No. She will go back to going for an armbar.

It would be stupid of her not to.
 
soo basically he just wrecked her lol, great analysis btw, holm seems overrated

She is massively overrated. All this bullshit about world championship titles in boxing. She only had 3 fights outside of New Mexico in her entire boxing career, and she failed to win 2 of those.
 
Another ease win for Honda is what this is. Anyone who believed Holm has a chance is out of their mind.
 
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