Is it risky to tell them to get off my back because I don't like working with Indians?

[Misanthropist]

I want to reiterate that I'm not talking about Indians who grew up here and understand our laid back culture. You can easily distinguish the two.

I work in a big company in a certain division (have 2 roles) with great people, culture, good pay and manager but there's one and only major drawback.

My Indian supervisor is the polar opposite of my manager and all the other easygoing superiors who listen to what we all have to say without being micromanaged and trusting us with the roles we do ourselves.

I don't even know where to begin and how much my blood pressure went off the roof because of that cunt. Same for other staff members who have the same issue as me and said our work vibe is 10x better when he's away.

But let's cut the chase and say is it worth the risk to ignore the way he wants me to get the job done? All the other superiors would tell me to get the job done however you want without being micromanaged, watched and stealing all the credit for himself every time and having a way to completely silence us to assert his dominance? The cunt is also allergic to no and behaves subserviently to the higher ups to save face thereby putting more strain in our work.

I'm thinking of pulling a risk to get him off my back, "manager or that person said it's fine", "trust me, i know what i'm doing" etc and don't think he will complain to the higher ups because that goes against our company values.

Thoughts?

 

[BreatheSherBro]

Provide your workplace with a list of your favorite and least favorite ethnic groups and see how that goes.

 

[Misanthropist]

Provide your workplace with a list of your favorite and least favorite ethnic groups and see how that goes.

There is no issue. Company is very, very ethnically diverse and they all work the same with a smile.

That guy on the other hand...he works like his life depend on it, force it upon us and in the exact way he wants us to do. Wtf is that?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Thoughts?

I worked for two years at an Indian-owned piping manufacturer in Little Rock AR and all of the management were Indian nationals. So I have experience with dealing with their management style and can testify that if you've already allowed them to micromanage you then they will continue to micromanage you.

The only way to get them to stop micromanage you is to make it perfectly clear that you do your job perfectly to their standards, and even then you'll probably have to go to your boss's boss to get them to get off your dick because their style is to always seem important in their position by ordering their subordinates around or else they're not needed in that position.

Micromanaging is their form of job security.

Otherwise, you're going to have to make a decision to either quit or give your boss's boss the ultimatum.

 

[HoiceNJuicy]

Confucius say: Man who call himself "Misanthropist" should take hard look in mirror before attacking boss on discussion forum.

 

[JadeOwl]

The War Room is that way.

 

[fungi]

Different culture hard to judge.

I have worked with indians. Didn't like it much.

Their obsession with hierarchy is beyond weird, mostly due to their caste mentality.

 

[I Am Legion]

I will agree that some cultures are harder to work with than others. It's a shame we can't be open and discuss that without being labeled racist. Stereotypes come from reality in many cases. I am lucky my company does not believe in forced diversity. The owner of my company is Indian, but he filled his management team with Americans because he knows that micromanager type personalities that clash can cause production issues and turnover. He is a great dude.

 

[Natural Order]

You should tell your Indian superior you don’t listen to Indians cause you don’t like them.

Let us know how it goes!

 

[kflo]

Well Misanthrope. You are prejudiced. Because you think of him as your Indian supervisor, and not just your supervisor.

 

[Spam On Rye]

As long as he's not shitting in the street yr gonna have to deal with it bro. Also don't know what laid back culture you talking bout. Shit is a rat race bro.

 

[Captain Tenneal]

Different culture hard to judge.

I have worked with indians. Didn't like it much.

Their obsession with hierarchy is beyond weird, mostly due to their caste mentality.

I worked for two years at an Indian-owned piping manufacturer in Little Rock AR and all of the management were Indian nationals. So I have experience with dealing with their management style and can testify that if you've already allowed them to micromanage you then they will continue to micromanage you.

The only way to get them to stop micromanage you is to make it perfectly clear that you do your job perfectly to their standards, and even then you'll probably have to go to your boss's boss to get them to get off your dick because their style is to always seem important in their position by ordering their subordinates around or else they're not needed in that position.

Micromanaging is their form of job security.

Otherwise, you're going to have to make a decision to either quit or give your boss's boss the ultimatum.

I've only worked with one indian guy. We got along well prior to starting a project but upon starting he kept stressing over minor things before we could even get a framework of what we were doing at the time

I told him we need a framework first, then we'll start working on resource demands, then the minor stuff will be addressed. Aye, I just ended up doing the former myself.

I don't like to judge, maybe it's just a West vs East mindset thing

 

[Darkavius]

I will agree that some cultures are harder to work with than others. It's a shame we can't be open and discuss that without being labeled racist. Stereotypes come from reality in many cases. I am lucky my company does not believe in forced diversity. The owner of my company is Indian, but he filled his management team with Americans because he knows that micromanager type personalities that clash can cause production issues and turnover. He is a great dude.

I work in a big company with quite a lot of Indian people that live in India even though my manager is not Indian. In my experience they are good people and when they like you they support you and come to you with any questions. However, I cannot say I am a fan of their business style, even in the ones that have immigrated to America. This is for 2 reasons and again this is from my experience, results may vary.

1. If you are working with them overseas I find that they follow everything by the book. There's not much thinking outside of the box and I have had to go over things numerous times for them to get it correct.

2. I don't tend to like Indian business owners in America. In the businesses I have visited I find they are pretty cheap and the quality just is not there. I will specifically point to hotels/motels, gas stations, Dunkin Donut or Dairy Queen franchises.

I have wondered from a business perspective, especially for major technology corporations, if India and the Philippines could not be used as a cheap source of labor frequently what would the economies of India and the Philippines look like, and how would major corps be running financially?

 

[fungi]

I've only worked with one indian guy. We got along well prior to starting a project but upon starting he kept stressing over minor things before we could even get a framework of what we were doing at the time

I told him we need a framework first, then we'll start working on resource demands, then the minor stuff will be addressed. Aye, I just ended up doing the former myself.

I don't like to judge, maybe it's just a West vs East mindset thing

Two of my best college buds were punjabis.
College is different. We drank beers together, partied, etc. I didn't know shite about castes and shite.

After working with the indians, I came to despise their caste mentality and some elements of their culture. I do love indian food tho.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Just look for a new job. If you are employable and have skills, it shouldn't be that hard.

Give your current job as a reference. If they come to you and ask you why you're looking for a new job, just say 'I don't like my supervisor' and they might assign you a new supervisor.

I'll never understand why people act like they have to just keep whatever job they have forever.

 

[dildos]

you will get fired either way.

so good luck with getting another job soon.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

I used to own a Construction company.

I added on an extra 20% for the Indians.

At first I thought it was good business. They negotiated down 20% anyways, so we were back to where we started at. But then they started negotiating during and after the job. It wasted time. So I then increased it to 30%, then 40%, then just stopped working for them.

 

[Lycandroid]

find a prostitute that you know has AIDS, pay her whatever it takes to get this guy infected

 

[Sinister]

I will agree that some cultures are harder to work with than others. It's a shame we can't be open and discuss that without being labeled racist. Stereotypes come from reality in many cases. I am lucky my company does not believe in forced diversity. The owner of my company is Indian, but he filled his management team with Americans because he knows that micromanager type personalities that clash can cause production issues and turnover. He is a great dude.

FWIW, if he populated the management team with all Indians, or even a majority of Indians, because he is Indian then that's the exact opposite of forced diversity.

 

[Sinister]

I work in a big company with quite a lot of Indian people that live in India even though my manager is not Indian. In my experience they are good people and when they like you they support you and come to you with any questions. However, I cannot say I am a fan of their business style, even in the ones that have immigrated to America. This is for 2 reasons and again this is from my experience, results may vary.

1. If you are working with them overseas I find that they follow everything by the book. There's not much thinking outside of the box and I have had to go over things numerous times for them to get it correct.

2. I don't tend to like Indian business owners in America. In the businesses I have visited I find they are pretty cheap and the quality just is not there. I will specifically point to hotels/motels, gas stations, Dunkin Donut or Dairy Queen franchises.

I have wondered from a business perspective, especially for major technology corporations, if India and the Philippines could not be used as a cheap source of labor frequently what would the economies of India and the Philippines look like, and how would major corps be running financially?

The last question is really very pertinent. Large workforces tend to do what gets then paid when it comes to globalized business. India did very well with phone services, when I read into why one of the main reasons was they had seemingly endless patience for American Karens on the phones and never took telephone tirades personally. Where with Americans it was much more difficult to get us to do that job for the wage companies wanted to pay for it. I worked for MCI right out of HS for a few months and that's the reason I quit. My job was essentially getting yelled at a few times a day because my company had the audacity to call people.

Essentially they get locked into what constitutes "cheap labor." Over here we have a hard time comprehending that cheap and good are going to be two different things. It's tough to say how the economies would be running because that depends a lot on geopolitics, and every Country who can provide resources always wants austerity. Resources are needed for innovation. This channel kind of explores these ideas a bit: