Is gsp vs Hendricks still the most controversial fight of all time ?

[killakillakilla]

A. Kizer was not objective at all. In no way a company that offers a service would ever refuse it after receiving an email like the one he received. Theres a reason he was fired soon after.

B. Hendricks never accepted the NSAC offer. He just threw the WADA word and GSP's did all the work contacting NSAC and asking for their services. Hendricks did NADA and he even admitted later that he had no intention to do ANY additional testing, be it VADA or NSCAC enhanced testing.

Lol! Kizer wasn’t fired from NSAC and Hendricks did accept the NSAC offer of random testing through the lab in SLC.

 

[glavinator]

Such as?

Brunson Silva

 

[BBMN]

Yeah that's the IV ban+failling body+no strict diet.
There's no " lot of evidence to support that he may have been using prohibited substances for that fight."
Ivs were legal back then.

The whole Hendricks was on steroids thing is just a way for Gsp fans to cope

Why did Hendricks keep saying he wanted stricter PED testing, and when GSP said "Sure thing. We can do USADA", Hendricks got extremely combative? (If I recall correctly, USADA had stricter guidelines, and was/is considered a higher standard.)

Be as elaborate as you can be.

(For the record, I like GSP, but had grown tired of his safe-style title run, and wanted Hendricks to usher in a new ear of exciting title fights.)

 

[PalmStrike]

I WANTED shogun and GSP to win those fights.

I have no issue with either decision.

You should have to CLEARLY BEAT the champ...not win a paper thin decision.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

It never was. Machida vs Shogun 1 was far more controversial. Pretty sure there was a poll on here after the fight and like 85% or more scored it for Shogun.

 

[Ibm]

He'll no. I had gsp winning all along.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

I WANTED shogun and GSP to win those fights.

I have no issue with either decision.

You should have to CLEARLY BEAT the champ...not win a paper thin decision.

Shogun got robbed he only arguably lost 1 round based on the judging criteria. GSP vs Hendricks was actually a close fight that came down to how people scored a single round.

 

[glavinator]

That was a weight cutting issue. If you use that as your measurement then you are calling Conor McGregor a PED user as well. He changed weight classes after USADA rule changes. Hendricks missed weight multiple times because he tried to stay at WW. GSP quit at that same time so are you saying he a PED user too?

Didn't he miss at MW too?

 

[JustBleed69]

I was at the shopping mall lately doing some grocery and I was surprised to still heard a conversation about who won between George and Johnny, the fact that people still talk about it 8 years ago just show at what point this fight was polarized. Johnny won it imo.

GSP 1, 3, 5.

But yeah still very controversial, even though there have been way worse decisions.

 

[icemun]

Once USADA came into play, Hendricks never looked the same again. He had a streak of missing weight and showing up to weigh-ins out of shape. His in cage performances plummeted.

And once USADA came into play, GSP, dissapeared

 

[MCS]

I agree with the media scores for that fight, but those also recognized that it was competitive, given the round by round scoring. It was like a mirror match with both doing similar things, but Hendricks' power was the difference. If both do the same power is the decider.

I view it as a bad decision, but not one of the all-time robberies. That would be Diego/Pearson, as there isn't much of an argument for Diego winning any of those 3 rounds. Almost always you can make an argument the other way.

Jones/Reyes was bad as you had the judges revisit the scoring, lopsided results. And that decision not only impacted Reyes likely never holding the belt, but also the LHW div going forward. Jan becoming champ. Izzy vs Jan instead of possibly Jones.

 

[xHeadx]

It's certainly up there. I recall a lot crying over Machida/Shogun I. Many thought that was a robbery too.

 

[Lawrence]

I believe it is still the only MMA robbery where 100% of the media scored it for the loser. At the time no one counted it as a title defense this being ambigious is revisionist history by GSP fans.

I think you are right... But I still think Condit's robbery was the worst of all championship decisions.

But I'm a big Condit fan so my bias is included.

 

[countswagula]

I do remember clearly thinking that Hendricks won 3-2. I think the decision took on a lot of significance at the time because GSP was such a long reigning champion, and had seemingly been avoiding Hendricks for the last year or so (requesting to fight Nick Diaz when Johny was the clear contender, WADA vs VADA debacle etc).

As others have said, when taken in a vacuum it's not the worst decision ever, but I've watched it a few times back in the day and don't remember ever coming out of it thinking George won.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Lol! Kizer wasn’t fired from NSAC and Hendricks did accept the NSAC offer of random testing through the lab in SLC.

"The resignation is effective immediately" only 2 months after the GSP Hendricks fight.

We all know what that means.

And no Hendricks did not. Show me the proof.

 

[Masturbin]

Brunson Silva

How is that an evidence that Hendricks was on Ped vs Gsp?

 

[ThunderStruck]

And once USADA came into play, GSP, dissapeared

GSP retired almost 2 years prior to USADA. Try again.

 

[Masturbin]

Also let's be honnest the media cards are also that way in part because of Dana.

It was one of the rare close title fights were Dana blasted the winner

 

[Hotora86]

Biggest robbery of all time. Hendricks totally won that fight, and if the fight was judged with today's rules and what makes a 10-8 round, then Hendricks would have officially won because rounds 2 and 4 would have been scored as 10-8 for Hendricks.

I believe it is still the only MMA robbery where 100% of the media scored it for the loser. At the time no one counted it as a title defense this being ambigious is revisionist history by GSP fans.

Nothing can beat Shogun Machida 1

to all of you saying "THIS IS THE WORST ROBBERY" and especially to you, @yekmurat, have a look at this:

http://www.mmadecisions.com/decision/5249/Diego-Sanchez-vs-Ross-Pearson

All 14 media outlets and 96% of fans polled disagree with this. This is a true robbery.

 

[Masturbin]

Why did Hendricks keep saying he wanted stricter PED testing, and when GSP said "Sure thing. We can do USADA", Hendricks got extremely combative? (If I recall correctly, USADA had stricter guidelines, and was/is considered a higher standard.)

Be as elaborate as you can be.

(For the record, I like GSP, but had grown tired of his safe-style title run, and wanted Hendricks to usher in a new ear of exciting title fights.)

Maybe because he used Ped or maybe something else.Empasize on maybe.This whole testing story was pretty shady and unclear on both sides tbh. There not concrete proof that Hendricks was on Ped.

He most likely was like most guys on this era but he's always a target because Gsp fans are bitter and want to throw shade at him.

His downfall can easily be explained by him being damaged good,losing the will to fight and the IV ban.
If Woodley and El cucui started losing in 2015 everyone would say they were on ped. (when they are just shot)