Is gsp vs Hendricks still the most controversial fight of all time ?

[johndhi]

I stood up from the bar after the 5th round and walked home, grieving gsp's legacy.

 

[ThunderStruck]

A. Did you read the Keith Kizer quote where he explains why he interpreted GSPs response as a “no”? Cause that’s your answer

B. I never once in this thread said that Hendricks was tested by the NSAC. That testing never happened. Not sure what you are talking about.

C. The NSAC proposed random testing through a lab in Salt Lake City that had WADA accreditation. What is it that I don’t understand?

A. Of course I did. Did you read what Rodolphe said about that? That there is no way one could interpret that email as a NO. Explain to me how YOU interpret it as a no.

B. You said that Hendricks accepted the offer. But you ommit the fact that he later retracted.

C. You miss the part where VADA also uses WADA accredited lab. Hendricks wanted "WADA" testing (which isnt even a thing). Basically hendricks just used some sort of pathetic deflection tactic to avoid any additional testing.

Good night.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Biggest robbery of all time. Hendricks totally won that fight, and if the fight was judged with today's rules and what makes a 10-8 round, then Hendricks would have officially won because rounds 2 and 4 would have been scored as 10-8 for Hendricks.

No the GOAT robbery is Pearson v Sanchez, that was a disgrace

 

[killakillakilla]

A. Of course I did. Did you read what Rodolphe said about that? That there is no way one could interpret that email as a NO. Explain to me how YOU interpret it as a no.

B. You said that Hendricks accepted the offer. But you ommit the fact that he later retracted.

C. You miss the part where VADA also uses WADA accredited lab. Hendricks wanted "WADA" testing (which isnt even a thing). Basically hendricks just used some sort of pathetic deflection tactic to avoid any additional testing.

Good night.

A. I interpret Keith Kizers perspective as GSPs camp giving him the run around and Kizer (NSAC) was an objective party in this situation. It’s pretty clear he blames GSPs camp for the testing not occurring.

B. Hendricks originally accepted the GSP VADA offer and then retracted it. Then he accepted the NSAC offer of random testing through a SLC WADA accredited lab. But the testing never happened.

C. Hendricks wanted the NSAC proposed testing. I know he was calling it WADA testing in that interview. He’s not the smartest guy. I’m gonna just agree to disagree here cause I’m calling it a night on this thread.

 

[Otto!]

Lol at thinking that this was a robbery.

 

[ejazahmednit]

Colby beat Usman and Zhang beat Rose more convincingly than Gsp beat Hendricks. It is the only fight I know of where the entire media scored it for one guy and the judges gave it to another.

Even Gsp fans know he lost, that is why they are dead set on framing Pig Pigg as a steroid cheat and Gsp as the cleanest fighter in the game. The irony is Johnny wanted wada, not usada, and since then usada has been the org that has proven to be corrupt and having a different set of rules for UFC's cash cow champions (i.e. jones) compared other fighters (i.e. Tom Lawlor, Frank Mir, etc). Johnny was always bound to be the type of fighter, much like Conor, that as soon as he reached his goals he was going to let himself go, plus, I also think he just matched up with Gsp well. Conor did not have to be the next Aldo to beat him, nor did he need to cheat usada, he just needed to have the style to beat Aldo, just as Hendricks did for Gsp.

WADA is the org that sets the regulatory standards, it does not do any testing, VADA and USADA both do the actual testing, just thought you should know

 

[Oozing BDE]

I haven't re watch this fight in a while, but I probably should. But I do remember thinking that Martin kampmann got screwed when he lost the decision against Diego

Diego clearly won two rounds though. The round Kampman disfigured him in should have been a 10-8 even back then though.

 

[RiotWyatt]

Not as controversial is people make it out to be and not even close to the most controversial.

All rounds were clear cut 2-2 each other than the 1st where some people thought GSP did enough to edge.

 

[RockyLockridge]

It shouldn't be.

the most controversial decision by far imo is whittaker vs yoel 2.

in order to score the fight for whittaker you have to score ZERO 10-8 rounds in the fight.

Just 1 10-8 round would make it a draw clear as day. It's the only UFC event I've ever suspected of being rigged. GSP vs Hendricks is way less controversial, It was a close fight 2-2 with one round in the air. Nothing like this, Where Not scoring a 10-8 round in that fight is either pure corruption or incompetence.

 

[ExitLUPin]

It shouldn't be the most controversial decision by far imo is whittaker vs yoel 2.

in order to score the fight for whittaker you have to score ZERO 10-8 rounds in the fight.

Just 1 10-8 round would make it a draw clear as day. It's the only UFC event I've ever suspected of being rigged. GSP vs Hendricks is way less controversial, It was a close fight 2-2 with one round in the air. Nothing like this, Where Not scoring a 10-8 round in that fight is either pure corruption or incompetence.

I love Bobby but the rematch was at best a draw for him....no way he won

 

[ejazahmednit]

I just rewatched this fight just because my memory was very foggy....I have no idea what people watched going by the discussion here.

Yes it was a razor thin fight, however, in my humble opinion George won on points. And I say this completely objectively, re-watched this with 0 bias.

Going by rounds, round 1 was razor thin, I honestly have no idea who won this round, you would have to count punches kicks etc
Round 2, I'm dumbfounded people think Hendricks had a 10-8....omg, he landed an uppercut on Georges that rocked him for all of 10 seconds, and he was definitely winning the first 2 min or so of the fight, but George recovered and actually won the rest of the round on points. I don't think people understand what a 10-8 looks like. It's hilarious.

Third round was close again, but I thought Georges won that on points as well.

Fourth round won by Hendricks, when GSP slipped and Johny got a fortuitous 2 min of ground control with some good gnp, which busted Georges up a bit...however, for some reason he just let George get up at 2 min mark, like wtf, and they continued a stand up battle, where again George probably outpointed him for the next 2-3 min. And you could clearly see that GSP was gaining steam and got his 2nd wind, while Hendricks was fading.

Fifth round was clearly Georges.

So, in my mind George won the fight, judges got it right. He clearly had more output and scored more and short bursts of good action by Hendricks weren't enough. Sherdog is crazy thinking there were 2 10-8s, lmao that is so bad.

Thank you
People forget than Georges actually fought back in round 2 and round 4
Same as Gustafsson did in the 1st Jones fight, he was rocked for a total of 0 seconds in the final round and was winning most of Round 5 and Round 4

 

[C0NCH3TO]

I had it a draw, it was a very close fight that could have gone either way. No problem had they gave Johnny the fight.

Fans use the word “robbery” way too much. It was not a robbery lol. Jones vs Reyes, Shogun vs Machida 1, Max vs Volk 2 and many others that I won’t list were NOT robberies. They were hard fought, back and forth battles with no clear winner therefore 3 guys had to pick one.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

I feel as though all of Canada is on this forum and are quite biased.

 

[abject]

I'm in love with GSP but not gay. And Hendricks won the fight. But there have been worse robberies. Cejudo vs MM and Edgar vs Benson spring to mind.

 

[Substance Abuse]

No the GOAT robbery is Pearson v Sanchez, that was a disgrace

The GOAT robbery is Kampmann/Sanchez. Diego got beat up so badly it looked like his face was going to fall off. The worst judged fight I've ever watched. Ever.

This Georges/Hendricks fight was no robbery. These guys in this thread cannot wrap their head around judging fights round by round.

 

[HeffDoesWant]

Biggest robbery of all time. Hendricks totally won that fight, and if the fight was judged with today's rules and what makes a 10-8 round, then Hendricks would have officially won because rounds 2 and 4 would have been scored as 10-8 for Hendricks.

Not a robbery, more a case of flawed rule interpretation.

Nothing can beat Shogun Machida 1

Explain how any of rounds 1, 2 or 3 are decisively Shoguns?
He clearly won 4 and 5 if course.

 

[BAM]

The GOAT robbery is Kampmann/Sanchez. Diego got beat up so badly it looked like his face was going to fall off. The worst judged fight I've ever watched. Ever.

This Georges/Hendricks fight was no robbery. These guys in this thread cannot wrap their head around judging fights round by round.

My mind jumps to

Mezger v Sakuraba - opening round of the legendary 2000 Pride Gran Prix, questionable decision, followed by a mandatory overtime, Mezger and Shamrock walked off in protest because of it rather than do the overtime, as Shamrock claimed that overtime rounds were not agreed to in the contract. Considering that the Gracie fight was waiting and Pride's history of trying to bribe fighters to take dives for Sakuraba (Rampage), whole thing seems shady to me still. Pride later apologised that the extra mandatory round was a "miscommunication"

Pudzianowski v James Thompson - got overturned as a "judging error", alleged corruption

There are plenty of close decisions, but those went to a certain place beyond just mere incompetence. There might be other shady decisions here and there, especially in the early days, but people were paying attention to these events.

 

[Substance Abuse]

My mind jumps to

Metzger v Sakuraba - opening round of the legendary 2000 Pride Gran Prix, questionable decision, followed by a mandatory overtime, Metzger and Shamrock walked off in protest because of it rather than do the overtime, as Shamrock claimed that overtime rounds were not agreed to in the contract. Considering that the Gracie fight was waiting and Pride's history of trying to bribe fighters to take dives for Sakuraba (Rampage), whole thing seems shady to me still. Pride later apologised that the extra mandatory round was a "miscommunication"

Pudzianowski v James Thompson - got overturned as a "judging error", alleged corruption

There are plenty of close decisions, but those went to a certain place beyond just mere incompetence. There might be other shady decisions here and there, especially in the early days, but people were paying attention to these events.

Damn, great call on the Guy/Saku fight. I've seen it. I just didn't think of it.

 

[BAM]

Now that I think about it, this isn't even GSP's most controversial fight.

The first fight w/ BJ Penn was clean and close, but controversial as many thought BJ won.

the 2nd fight w/ BJ Penn was more decisive but had the greasing event. The board argued about that for a decade.

 

[samoajoe]

They were clearly 10-8s. If you think GSP winning round 1 with a 10-9 and Hendricks winning round 2 with the same score, 10-9, is fair then you are the brain dead one. Those rounds should have been 10-8s. And honestly round 1 was a total draw.

So you admit Hendricks only won 2 rounds in a 5 round fight, glad you're not delusional on that point.

It's not boxing and knock downs are not automatically 10 - 8 rounds. GSP recovered very well after the knockdown in round two.

1,3,5 GSP not a rubbery at all.

Another over looked fact is that Hendricks was completely blown up in the 5th and would have eventually gotten finished had the fight continued as he had nothing left after FAILING to put the champ away in the 4th.

Lyoto vs Shogun 1 is the far worse, Shogun won at least 4 of those rounds.