Is gsp vs Hendricks still the most controversial fight of all time ?

That fight hurt GSP's legacy a lot, it's essentially a loss he didn't care to even try and make right by re matching Hendricks.

He pretty much admitted there was a fighter better than him during his era by not re matching Hendricks after losing.

Wrong. He won on a per round basis. Even if he lost, which he didn't, it didn't hurt his legacy. You guys are so dramatic, lol.
 
absolutely shit job robbery only eclipsed by BJ-gsp 1 where BJ was absolutely ROBBED by BLIND judges. One guy went to the hospital the other went to the club and this was before he was getting ko'd in hte parking lot.

Funny how Georges was involved AND the beneficiary in the two biggest robberies in history. This supposed GOAT got the living shit beat out of him 4 times in his prime.
 
Neither GSP nor Hendricks did the extra testing proposed by the NSAC. That testing never happened as clearly explained in the article. Dude read the full article!

And seriously stop debating until you actually drop some evidence of your own. I’m the only one of us that has done so.

GSP agreed to do NSAC enhanced testing and asked for payments information. Keizer is the reason it didn't happen.

You're the one that needs to read the whole article.
 
I was at the shopping mall lately doing some grocery and I was surprised to still heard a conversation about who won between George and Johnny, the fact that people still talk about it 8 years ago just show at what point this fight was polarized. Johnny won it imo.
Meh. it's ancient history.
IMHO Johnny was robbed.

But the timing, to me was more peculiar.
It was just months after Jon & Gus I, and that just felt worse because it gave me a feeling that champions could not lose, despite what happened throughout the fight.
Like the judges would always give rounds to the current champions, despite what happened.
 
GSP agreed to do NSAC enhanced testing and asked for payments information. Keizer is the reason it didn't happen.

He asked for a lot more than “payment info”. He asked many questions that Kizer felt uncomfortable answering. He was giving Kizer the runaround which is why it never happened. Look if you can provide a source that disputes the article I posted earlier in this thread than great. We can continue to debate. Otherwise, there’s no point to discuss this. The article lays out what occurred pretty clearly.
 
He asked for a lot more than “payment info”. He asked many questions that Kizer felt uncomfortable answering. He was giving Kizer the runaround which is why it never happened. Look if you can provide a source that disputes the article I posted earlier in this thread than great. We can continue to debate. Otherwise, there’s no point to discuss this. The article lays out what occurred pretty clearly.

Totally legit questions if you're going to pay for you and YOUR OPPONENT's testing. Kizer was fired soon after that. Runaround? Asking for all the payments information?
 
Totally legit questions if you're going to pay for you and YOUR OPPONENT's testing. Kizer was fired soon after that. Runaround? Asking for all the payments information?

Lol he asked for wayyy more than just payment info. Once again please provide a source. I provided mine earlier in this thread.
 
Lol he asked for wayyy more than just payment info. Once again please provide a source. I provided mine earlier in this thread.

As i said, he asked what they were testing for, which are totally legit questions.

Tell me how you can interpret this as anything else than a "YES i wans to get tested by your program" :


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From: Rodolphe Beaulieu

Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 6:52 PM

To: Keith Kizer

Cc: Michael Mersch; Firas; Ted

Subject: Re: RE:



Hello all,

We spoke with Georges today and he took his decision so for your information, Georges has decided that if Johny Hendricks does not want to do VADA and prefers your proposed enhanced steroid and drug testing by the Nevada Athletic Commission, Georges will also do it, in addition to VADA.

I will be out of the office without access to email or voicemail until Aug. 27th but in the meantime, please provide us with all documentation, a detailed invoice and payment instructions necessary to proceed with such enhanced steroid and drug testing by the Commission.



Best regards

Rodolphe

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The WADA extra testing was to be done through a third party lab in Salt Lake City (if I remember correctly). It was offered to both Hendricks and GSP by the athletic Commission prior to their fight. Hendricks accepted the offer, GSP did not.

Hendricks NEVER accepted that offer. Get your facts straight.
 
People saying Shogun/Machida 1 are clowning themselves. Machida clearly won that fight.
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I haven't re watch this fight in a while, but I probably should. But I do remember thinking that Martin kampmann got screwed when he lost the decision against Diego
that one was legit terrible decision.

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I think title is a bit misleading as the fight was not controversial, the judging of the fight has been perceived as controversial or at least incorrect.
 
As i said, he asked what they were testing for, which are totally legit questions.

Tell me how you can interpret this as anything else than a "YES i wans to get tested by your program" :


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From: Rodolphe Beaulieu

Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 6:52 PM

To: Keith Kizer

Cc: Michael Mersch; Firas; Ted

Subject: Re: RE:



Hello all,

We spoke with Georges today and he took his decision so for your information, Georges has decided that if Johny Hendricks does not want to do VADA and prefers your proposed enhanced steroid and drug testing by the Nevada Athletic Commission, Georges will also do it, in addition to VADA.

I will be out of the office without access to email or voicemail until Aug. 27th but in the meantime, please provide us with all documentation, a detailed invoice and payment instructions necessary to proceed with such enhanced steroid and drug testing by the Commission.



Best regards

Rodolphe

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Keith Kizer (former NSAC Commissioner): "I don't blame Georges for this, but Georges' people decided to start muddying the waters asking a ton of questions, some which were relevant and some that weren't," Kizer explained. "And they continued to ask questions and then finally they got to the point where they were unavailable and can't be reached in any manner for at least 10 days. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that's a 'no.' That's a 'no' by one's inactions than it is a verbal 'no' or a written 'no,' but you can read the emails yourself and make up your own mind."
 
Keith Kizer (former NSAC Commissioner): "I don't blame Georges for this, but Georges' people decided to start muddying the waters asking a ton of questions, some which were relevant and some that weren't," Kizer explained. "And they continued to ask questions and then finally they got to the point where they were unavailable and can't be reached in any manner for at least 10 days. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that's a 'no.' That's a 'no' by one's inactions than it is a verbal 'no' or a written 'no,' but you can read the emails yourself and make up your own mind."

Again, how can you interpret that last email as a no? Explain this to me. You have posted this paragraph (that means nothing) several times already. No need to post it again. Just explain to me how that last email can be considered as a NO rather than a YES. Also you keep spewing the lie that Hendricks was tested by NSAC while he WASNT. Get your facts straight. Oh and you don't even seem to know the difference between WADA and an actual testing organization (just like Hendricks who was bluffing this whole time).
 
Hendricks beat his ass so bad he GSP aliens and retired you could tell at the post fight press conference GSP knew he lost
 
Again, how can you interpret that last email as a no? Explain this to me. You have posted this paragraph (that means nothing) several times already. No need to post it again. Just explain to me how that last email can be considered as a NO rather than a YES. Also you keep spewing the lie that Hendricks was tested by NSAC while he WASNT. Get your facts straight. Oh and you don't even seem to know the difference between WADA and an actual testing organization (just like Hendricks who was bluffing this whole time).

A. Did you read the Keith Kizer quote where he explains why he interpreted GSPs response as a “no”? Cause that’s your answer

B. I never once in this thread said that Hendricks was tested by the NSAC. That testing never happened. Not sure what you are talking about.

C. The NSAC proposed random testing through a lab in Salt Lake City that had WADA accreditation. What is it that I don’t understand?
 
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