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Is Cruz one of the top 5 goat in "UFC" since jones and silva is out of goat discussion

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Now that silva and jones is out of goat talk(steroid) is Cruz the top 5 goat?
Cruz resume : Dj,Tj,Faberx2,bowles,joeBx2
base on his resume is he the top 5? I don't see anyone surpassing Cruz other than Gsp,mm,Aldo and stipe
 
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He's the BW GOAT but not a top 5 MMA GOAT.
 
Since when are Jones and Silva out of contention?
 
Like the guy... but no. Injuries took some prime years. Now 135 is better than ever. But would love a Dillashaw rematch down the road.
 
3sumrock said:
this is about ufc top 5 goat not mma

both of them got busted for steroids twice
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Hell even UFC GOATs.

GSP, Silva, Jones, Aldo and MM. He's probably 6th after them.
 
3sumrock said:
this is about ufc top 5 goat not mma

both of them got busted for steroids, twice
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So every fight they won and passed tests for successfully are now null and void? Jones's record is now 1 loss and 21 NCs??

Do we get to disqualify the past records of fighters with egregious gyno man boobs like Cruz too? How about fighters with 40 inch waist HGH guts like GSP??? Seems as about as legit a qualification as what you're suggesting. After all, negative tests doesn't mean anything if cheats like Jon and Silva can pass them; might as well just disqualify everyone on account of undocumented cheating outside of Cody Pfister and the Diaz brothers to be safe.
 
Jones and Silva will NEVER be out of the discussion.

They are both top 5 ALL TIME GOATS.
 
3sumrock said:
it's all about proof....
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It's all about giving a shit, and i really don't.

If they want to make themselves as fast, and powerful as they can then who am I to stand in their way? I say let them bang.
 
I'd like to call him top 5, but who do you replace? GSP? Aldo? MM? I mean, that's if you leave AS and JBJ in...
 
Sad to think that some people consider it not only acceptable to cheat, but the preferred way to do sports.

By their logic a regular fighter winning all his fighters with brass knuckles would make him the GOAT.

Not coincidentally, said people have brain damage.
 
Inertia Creeps said:
So every fight they won and passed tests for successfully are now null and void? Jones's record is now 1 loss and 21 NCs??

Do we get to disqualify the past records of fighters with egregious gyno man boobs like Cruz too? How about fighters with 40 inch waist HGH guts like GSP??? Seems as about as legit a qualification as what you're suggesting. After all, negative tests doesn't mean anything if cheats like Jon and Silva can pass them; might as well just disqualify everyone on account of undocumented cheating outside of Cody Pfister and the Diaz brothers to be safe.
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not null and void.but they don't deserve in the goat talk.like it or not.and if gsp didn't get busted by USADA then he's not cheating.simple as that.
 
actually its a great question and soooo debatable.. i dont think there are 2 clear goats that would take as and jones place on the list... if jones cant be on the list, than dc has to be on the list as of today right? he lost to one man who cheated. Cruz has as good an argument as anyone especially with all his medical issues. the funny thing is i cant stand dc or cruz lol
 
3sumrock said:
Now that silva and jones is out of goat talk(steroid) is Cruz the top 5 goat?
Cruz resume : Dj,Tj,Faberx2,bowles,joeBx2
base on his resume is he the top 5? I don't see anyone surpassing Cruz other than Gsp,mm,Aldo and stipe
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Yes
 
rb3b3 said:
actually its a great question and soooo debatable.. i dont think there are 2 clear goats that would take as and jones place on the list... if jones cant be on the list, than dc has to be on the list as of today right? he lost to one man who cheated. Cruz has as good an argument as anyone especially with all his medical issues. the funny thing is i cant stand dc or cruz lol
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stipe? his resume is better than cruz and dc in my opinion
 
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