Is Cody a better technical fighter than TJ?

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by DysDave, Aug 8, 2018.

  1. DysDave Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2013
    Messages:
    940
    Likes Received:
    0
    And on a related note, can a fighter lose 2 fights without controversy and still be considered to perhaps have the tools to win?

    First up, TJ won both fights relatively convincingly. TJ seems to be a better all-round fighter, and at this point you can't really make many arguments for Cody winning a third- it's doubtful he has it in him. But watching them fight, TJ seemed to win more through superior fight IQ, gameplanning and focus rather than simply being the better fighter.

    Cody, all antics aside, truly looked a lot crisper and faster with his hands. He was beating TJ to the punch in both fights, stunned him in both fights, and honestly looked to have the superior technique- but for whatever reason he shit the bed and starting swinging wildly as soon as TJ looked a little hurt. Had he stuck to his guns, countered and waited for a real opening instead of trying to finish so fast I think he could have got it done.

    On a similar note, Cody just took Cruz apart and made him look like a rank amateur- some people think TJ beat Cruz, but even if you believe that it was a super tight fight with little between them.

    I don't much care for Cody or TJ, but I gotta say that Cody still looks to have the cleanest boxing in MMA- possibly better than Conors even. It's frustrating to see him throw away what honestly looked like a winnable fight through a simple lack of fight IQ and temper.
     
  2. chitoortiz Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2010
    Messages:
    15,256
    Likes Received:
    2,005
    No.

    Cody's chin has just deteriorated.
     
  3. Rygu R.I.P. Obie

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2015
    Messages:
    10,371
    Likes Received:
    2,872
    Location:
    Mission B.C.
    You can't actually believe that.
     
  4. Rav7n Black Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2008
    Messages:
    7,099
    Likes Received:
    188
    Location:
    Manchester
    Absolutely no...
    Tj has superior skills and a way better fight iq obviously..
    It's why he leathered Cody twice..
     
  5. Headkicktoleg Titanium Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2014
    Messages:
    37,500
    Likes Received:
    3,691
    Location:
    Raleigh, NC
    Mayyyybeeeeee better offensive technique, but obviously not defensive
     
  6. TerraRayzing Little eagle soars again

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    2,003
    Likes Received:
    554
    Conor has far better boxing than Cody.
     
  7. Juventud Black Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2012
    Messages:
    7,408
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Picogram, NM
    No.

    Technically TJ outclassed him.

    Better striking, more well rounded, better game plan/fight IQ.
    Doesn't get emotional.

    TJ > Cody.
     
  8. JsinLegacy Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    3,760
    Likes Received:
    124
    Cody just fights to emotional against TJ.
     
  9. CRuck1980 Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2007
    Messages:
    20,057
    Likes Received:
    50
    Location:
    Bel Aire, Ks
    Eating 3 consecutive right hooks in a row though...
     
  10. ScoopSubMMA Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2006
    Messages:
    3,617
    Likes Received:
    0
    Let me go check their last two fights real quick. I'll come back with the answer.
     
  11. TheVenom Black Belt

    Joined:
    May 12, 2008
    Messages:
    6,823
    Likes Received:
    135
    Location:
    Colorado
    TJ is better, technically. At least, he’s better defensively. Cody is fast and definitely has power. Unfortunately, for him, he throws everything else out the window when fighting TJ. He didn’t learn from their first encounter. TJ has him shook mentally and can goade Cody into a firefight. TJ counters so well and knows Cody’s style.

    Cody has the tools to win, but not the mental fortitude to stay calm or gameplan.
     
  12. SKITZADACTYL Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2013
    Messages:
    24,713
    Likes Received:
    928
    what in the fuck, no...


    jesus.


    TJ is the better fighter period, cody is essentially a super fast brawler, basically throws nothing but hooks to the head.
     
  13. Final Say So Icey Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2014
    Messages:
    20,490
    Likes Received:
    1,498
    Even if Cody has better hands, it takes a lot more than that in MMA

    He's definitely not more skilled overall, no
     
  14. Dbreiden83080 Andle My Riddum

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2007
    Messages:
    39,431
    Likes Received:
    2,180
    Location:
    Bluffton, SC
    Good Lord there was a time people debated that.. Would have been ugly for Cody..
     
  15. jali White Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2018
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    yeah, he has better boxing and his foot work looked really good against Cruz, but when he gets into those wild exchanges, he drops his guard, I feel if he just pulled back a bit and maintained his emotions he could have beaten TJ,
     
  16. tithas Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2015
    Messages:
    3,744
    Likes Received:
    0
    Faster hands does not mean better technique. Cody has meh defense and stands to flat footed when he is on the attack. He is decent at countering but is way to open to counters himself when he goes forward.
     
  17. TerraRayzing Little eagle soars again

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    2,003
    Likes Received:
    554
    Conor has almost a foot long reach advantage, nuff said.
     
  18. SeattleFightFan Steel Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2004
    Messages:
    30,677
    Likes Received:
    1,484
    god no.

    TJ was always better technically, and Cody was a heavy hitter. that was the chess game; can technique beat power?

    and then it turns out TJ is even more of a heavy hitter than Cody. whoops.

    and if you think by the transitive property that makes Cody more technical than TJ, then you don't understand the transitive property ;)

    it was almost like Fedor beating Nog on the ground. no one expected that. doesn't make Nog a better stand up fighter than Fedor, heh.
     
  19. ocs2304 Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2010
    Messages:
    2,301
    Likes Received:
    16
    He got slept twice, no just no
     
  20. MadHouse Red Belt

    Joined:
    May 20, 2015
    Messages:
    7,588
    Likes Received:
    181
    No, he's just faster
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.