Is Bas Rutten them most underrated GOAT candidate ever?

[Jeff Goldblum69]

One of the greats ... did a LOT for
The sport in and out of the arena

 

[Jeff Goldblum69]

He quit at his peak, so it's hard to know how much more he could have done, or when he might have started declining. He had half of a career, or 2/3 maybe.

Imagine if Khabib retired now, where would he rank?

Pretty sure he had to retire due to injury

 

[Taric]

Pancrase is what people accuse PRIDE of being.

 

[Bruce Lee666]

He's actually overrated

Bas is not GOAT, but he was a savage,he was a very good great warrior.

 

[ulysse]

Pretty sure he had to retire due to injury

Yes absolutely, due to injury

 

[ulysse]

Bas is smaller than Fedor...
and it's a little difficult to compare with modern MMA
anyway, Cheers Bas, on of the best

 

[gono btw]

Bas iz a puhssy.

Spoiler: Proof...

 

[GangGangGang]

Bas has what, 6 good wins in his 30+ fight career?

 

[welcometohavoc]

He was a UFC Heavyweight Champion, a three-time King of Pancrase world champion, and finished his career on a 22 fight unbeaten streak (21 wins, 1 draw). FightMetric wrote this when Rutten got inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame: "FightMetric, the official statistics provider for the UFC, ran the numbers on Rutten's career. They back up the Dutchman's inclusion into the UFC Hall of Fame and then some. In the 4-hours, 27-minutes and 8-seconds he spent as a pro fighter, Rutten scored 13 knockdowns without getting dropped himself, his significant strike accuracy was 70.6%, the highest FightMetric has ever recorded, attempted a record 53 submissions and successfully swept his opponents a record 46 times.

- Heavyweight
- 22 fight unbeaten streak to end his career
- Title holder in multiple organisations
- Record striking accuracy
- Record amount of submission attempts
- Record amount of sweeps

Yet he's not even listed on most top 10 HW GOAT lists. I personally think Fedor is the HW GOAT and Werdum is a good second. But Rutten is definitely a good candidate to complete the top 3. Do people just forget about him because he's from a different era or do people actuall think his accomplishments aren't top tier?

Fight Matrix has Bas listed as #10 in their all time HW rankings

 

[po_thead]

There no one else I'd rather put in a time machine, to see what he could have done in today's game with a developed ground game

 

[Killer Whale]

It's too long ago. Most of these filthy casuals have never seen him fight.

Filthy, disgusting, good for nothin’ casuals

 

[ferrisjso]

He was a UFC Heavyweight Champion, a three-time King of Pancrase world champion, and finished his career on a 22 fight unbeaten streak (21 wins, 1 draw). FightMetric wrote this when Rutten got inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame: "FightMetric, the official statistics provider for the UFC, ran the numbers on Rutten's career. They back up the Dutchman's inclusion into the UFC Hall of Fame and then some. In the 4-hours, 27-minutes and 8-seconds he spent as a pro fighter, Rutten scored 13 knockdowns without getting dropped himself, his significant strike accuracy was 70.6%, the highest FightMetric has ever recorded, attempted a record 53 submissions and successfully swept his opponents a record 46 times.

- Heavyweight
- 22 fight unbeaten streak to end his career
- Title holder in multiple organisations
- Record striking accuracy
- Record amount of submission attempts
- Record amount of sweeps

Yet he's not even listed on most top 10 HW GOAT lists. I personally think Fedor is the HW GOAT and Werdum is a good second. But Rutten is definitely a good candidate to complete the top 3. Do people just forget about him because he's from a different era or do people actuall think his accomplishments aren't top tier?

That whole era is underrated. OW would never work today can't imagine the sport with 1 belt, but the best did fight the best.

 

[Necrocrawler]

Not really.
Despite all his accomplished, we can probably say his career was a big "what if".
His fight with Randleman was awkward. Not saying he lost or anything, but that bout could have gone to Randleman if it happened with the judges we have today.
Rutten was a great striker who developed great grappling skills because he needed those since Pancrase was an org that really wanted grappling rather than striking.

Still... he was knocking dudes there lol

Anyway... I can only wonder what would have happened if he didn't had ending career injuries...
Would he be a double champ?
Would have him left UFC for Pride? (There was a rumour that they offererd a fight with Sakuraba. Instead he ended up being Pride's commentator).

Anyway... We can only wonder those stuff.

 

[letgodiego]

that was so awesome

 

[ShinkanPo]

Randleman beat the shit out of him.

 

[Texan6533]

I think Bas could have contended for a top ten Goat if he was able to keep competing against top competition. Once he started getting more well rounded, injuries kept creeping up on him.

 

[Viking Power]

Yes

 

[Billthebutcher]

Bas is very good actually. Shamrock knew his early weakness was leg submissions, thus thats how Ken won. Bas admittedly started training submission defense after those fights. He is definitely one of the best strikers of all time, even though handicapped in Pancrase with the open palm strike. If not for the neck injury, he would have defended the title many more times.

 

[Local Plata]

Pancrase was awful.

 

[MCDojoMMA]

Time for time he is one of the greatest p4p fighters ever.