Is Barnett's whole career being top 10 HW?
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Yeah, pretty much, since he armbarred Semmy in 01.
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I hope to see him back soon. He was getting the better of Rothwell in the stand up exhanges until he gave Ben an opportunity to crank on his neck.
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Not really, he was doing ok until Ben realized he needed to up the pressure.
He has been looking very sharp on his feet lately though, wanna see him fight again soon, for sure.
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sorry but hes not top 10 in my rankings hes top 20 and i mean in all of MMA not just UFC
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Barnett was smart enough back in the day to be technical in all aspects of MMA, so he was ahead of the game back then, and still technical enough to be relevant now. Plus he has that old-school grit that doesn't go away easy.
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The 1st round of Barnett/Aleks was one of the most tremendous rounds in MMA history. I'd love for these Zuffa noobs to watch that and then tell me HW fighters have evolved exponentially in the last decade lol
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Ben was just moving forward eating punches much like he did against JDS. But you're right. He did pressure Josh enough to get an opening. I mean it was Joshs fault for going for that take down against the fence. He didn't have it but he kept driving into it. Just Giving more and more of his neck to big Ben. It was a bad move on his part. But I do believe Josh was on his way to a 29-28 victory over big Ben had he just kept him at bay with his stand up.
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Barnett was winning on the first round, he was outlanded, and with heavier shots btw, on the second round.
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Yeah just look at the division, I think there's one guy under 30 in the top 15, it's an old mans division that's barely changed for years.
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Barnett is probably 2nd next to Hendo.
Hendo was CONTINUOUSLY ranked Top 10 for 17 years.
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I rank Barnett over Velasquez and dos Santos, personally. Barnett's longevity in the game is insane and I think he should definitely be seen as one of the Top-5 greatest HWs up until now. He is fighting in his 3rd era of HWs and is still Top-10.
He was a Top-20 HW at the start working his way up (at the time of the Rizzo loss). His win against Schilt catapulted him up to Top-3, only behind Nogueira and Couture. Then he stops Couture and cements himself as the #2 HW in the world for a while until Fedor's rise, which bumps him back to #3. He had some great wins but just could never really beat Filipovic, and those b2b losses brought him down but he was still Top-10. He fought his way up back to Top-3 after the Nogueira win (only fighter besides Fedor to beat him in PRIDE), but also had solid wins over Alexander and Hunt.
Cro Cop beats him again after Barnett goes through the greatest HW fight of all-time while Fiipovic had an easier schedule. He fights Nogueira again to a very close fight. He didn't fight for a while after that but when he returned he had a solid winning streak up until the Cormier fight (still believe that fight would have looked a lot different if Barnett didn't break his hand in the first 30 seconds). Then 16 years from his debut he puts on one of the finest performances of his career, completely dismantling Frank Mir. He had a poor showing against Browne but he is still one of the few elite HWs in the world.
1999-mid 2001: Top-20
2001-late 2004: Top-3, peaking at #2 before Fedor fought Nogueira
Late 2004- early 2006: Top-10
Rest of 2006: Top-5 the whole year going 5-2 with losses to a better conditioned Filipovic and a very close fight with Nogueira, was Top-3 for a couple months and peaked at #2 for the year, behind Fedor
2008: Top-10, arguably Top-5
2009-2016: Top-10, shifting up and down depending on wins from other fighters, around the 6-8 range in the later portion
The only other HW with comparable longevity is Nogueira who he is 1-1 with (in their primes, and he was definitely closer to winning in his loss than Nogueira was). I rank their peaks very close to each other and think you could argue for Barnett in terms of skills, even though Nogueira was considered the best HW in the world at one point while Barnett never was. Just look at his wins, schedule, and performances ... The only 4 guys he fought and hasn't beaten are Filipovic, Cormier, Rothwell, and Browne. Three of those guys he hasn't rematched (yet).
He was a Top-20 HW at the start working his way up (at the time of the Rizzo loss). His win against Schilt catapulted him up to Top-3, only behind Nogueira and Couture. Then he stops Couture and cements himself as the #2 HW in the world for a while until Fedor's rise, which bumps him back to #3. He had some great wins but just could never really beat Filipovic, and those b2b losses brought him down but he was still Top-10. He fought his way up back to Top-3 after the Nogueira win (only fighter besides Fedor to beat him in PRIDE), but also had solid wins over Alexander and Hunt.
Cro Cop beats him again after Barnett goes through the greatest HW fight of all-time while Fiipovic had an easier schedule. He fights Nogueira again to a very close fight. He didn't fight for a while after that but when he returned he had a solid winning streak up until the Cormier fight (still believe that fight would have looked a lot different if Barnett didn't break his hand in the first 30 seconds). Then 16 years from his debut he puts on one of the finest performances of his career, completely dismantling Frank Mir. He had a poor showing against Browne but he is still one of the few elite HWs in the world.
1999-mid 2001: Top-20
2001-late 2004: Top-3, peaking at #2 before Fedor fought Nogueira
Late 2004- early 2006: Top-10
Rest of 2006: Top-5 the whole year going 5-2 with losses to a better conditioned Filipovic and a very close fight with Nogueira, was Top-3 for a couple months and peaked at #2 for the year, behind Fedor
2008: Top-10, arguably Top-5
2009-2016: Top-10, shifting up and down depending on wins from other fighters, around the 6-8 range in the later portion
The only other HW with comparable longevity is Nogueira who he is 1-1 with (in their primes, and he was definitely closer to winning in his loss than Nogueira was). I rank their peaks very close to each other and think you could argue for Barnett in terms of skills, even though Nogueira was considered the best HW in the world at one point while Barnett never was. Just look at his wins, schedule, and performances ... The only 4 guys he fought and hasn't beaten are Filipovic, Cormier, Rothwell, and Browne. Three of those guys he hasn't rematched (yet).
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But no. He lost to Travis Browne very poorly, destroyed Affliction w a pos roid test, whopped by Cro Cop 3 times, soundly beat by a MW (Daniel Cormier) and lost to Ben Rothwell and Travis Browne.
He's been around for a long time but consistent 10, I don't think so. Both Cain and JDS would maul him.
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