Media Irrefutable stats that show the new garbage gloves have reduced the knockout rates SIGNIFICANTLY

It would be interesting to know what fighters have to say about that. We also know that the KO rate changes a lot, depending on the weight class. We could try to find the "expected" KO rate for those last month, taking weight class into account ; we'd get an even more precise idea of the gloves' influence. The sample isn't really huge, so that would help a bit.

And then obviously, try and find out what is the actual problem with those gloves (it is reasonable to assume that fighters could need a few months to get used to them).
 
It's funny how easily people can misinterpret data and call it "definitive".
As if the same fights happened in different years with different gloves so you could directly compare.
As if every fight isn't a wide amount if variables, such as style matchups.
As if it isn't different fighters being tracked year in year out, the roster is literally never stagnant.
Are submissions down too?
Must be the new cups.
 
If you took stats in HS or college you would learn that basing research off a small sample size draws false conclusions. The gloves haven't even been out for a year.

A small sample size can have several limitations, including:


  • Random variation: Results may vary randomly, so multiple studies with small sample sizes may have different or opposite findings.


  • Limited generalizability: The results may not be representative of the population.


  • Underpowered studies: Studies with small sample sizes may be unreliable and lead to faulty conclusions.


  • Type II error: The null hypothesis may be incorrectly accepted, resulting in the conclusion that there is no difference between study groups.


  • Cognitive bias: There may be a cognitive bias that the results from a small sample are representative of the overall population.


    • Difficulty accounting for complexity: Small sample sizes may not be able to account for the complexity of the statistical model needed to answer the research question.

    • Wasted resources: Underpowered studies are considered unethical and wasteful.
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It's not the gloves it's UFC being filled with Dana's Cans from the Cantender series with 3-2 records. The new fighters are inexperienced and they suck.
 
xhaydenx said:
I've been making good money gambling on fights to go the distance since the new pillow gloves came into use.

Pillow gloves bless.
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There’s something to this…I’ve been betting the over on rounds like crazy after the glove switch cus it’s been noticeable for sure
 
BEATDOWNS said:
It's not the gloves it's UFC being filled with Dana's Cans from the Cantender series with 3-2 records. The new fighters are inexperienced and they suck.
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That's a dumb and wrong reason. This isn't the first season of DWCS and as the rates showed the last 3 years with a similar roster the KO rate was in the same range. But fallen off a cliff now.

Dana White's Contender Series - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Just from last season

Andre Lima
Rodolfo Bellato
Mauricio Ruffy
Danny Barlow
Vinicius Oliveira
Jean Silva
Carlos Prates
Bolaji Oki
Payton Talbott
Zachary Reese
Cesar Almeida
Kevin Borjas
Shamil Gaziev

These are all either great talents or finishers win or lose. And that is like 85% of the fighters signed from last season. The ones so far this season mostly haven't even made their UFC debuts yet so they aren't counted in the KO rates of UFC cards
 
OleBuffalo said:
There’s something to this…I’ve been betting the over on rounds like crazy after the glove switch cus it’s been noticeable for sure
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Brother, yes.

I've made 23u in the last 7 weeks or something betting on fights without even knowing who is fighting before hand haha.

In a little over 2 months I've made 84u with those bets and my normal ones. It's been ridiculous.

There was some stat I had where I was just betting a unit on each of the two biggest GTDs I could find on each card. At one point it was something like 7 wins and 2 losses for the month and 9u risked to win something like 34 haha. Like, I was hitting things like Nolan/Reyes GTD (12.00) and Tuivasa/Rozen GTD (5.50) both on the same card.

That one card paid off a bit under half a year of these big GTD bets at that same unit price. The wild thing is, there's literally no way more wouldn't hit in that time. Pretty sure that both hit on the next two cards that followed lol.

Don't bet the Over 2.5u if that's what you're doing. Just do the full GTD. And if you're doing Under, better to do U2.5 instead of ITD. I did the numbers and there's been only like 3 fights in the last two months that have finished but done so after 2.5. The extra odds for U2.5 over ITD are worth it on my books.

WMMA is free money too.
 
ExitLUPin said:
That's a dumb and wrong reason. This isn't the first season of DWCS and as the rates showed the last 3 years with a similar roster the KO rate was in the same range. But fallen off a cliff now.

Dana White's Contender Series - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Just from last season

Andre Lima
Rodolfo Bellato
Mauricio Ruffy
Danny Barlow
Vinicius Oliveira
Jean Silva
Carlos Prates
Bolaji Oki
Payton Talbott
Zachary Reese
Cesar Almeida
Kevin Borjas
Shamil Gaziev

These are all either great talents or finishers win or lose. And that is like 85% of the fighters signed from last season. The ones so far this season mostly haven't even made their UFC debuts yet so they aren't counted in the KO rates of UFC cards
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Cezar Almeida sure as shit has shown the new glove design doesn't help preventing eye pokes at all. Bring back the old gloves.
 
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