Interesting Max holloway stat I discovered

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First of all, yes, I know, stats are just one of many tools to look at when breaking down fights and I'm aware that they can be misleading. I'm not acting like this is the end all be all of breaking down fights, so don't get your panties in a bunch. I'm just bored and looking at some stats. Anyways, I was looking at fight metric and I noticed that nearly every single fighter that beat Max Holloway had something in common—they all average 5 or more significant landed strikes per minute.

Conor averages: 5.43
Dustin averages: 5.57
Volk averages: 6.02

The lone exception is the very controversial decision to Bermudez. This isn't surprising, though, because Bermudez was primarily a wrestler. He averaged 4.52 significant strikes landed per minute.

After realizing this, I looked further and realized that Max Holloway has never beaten a single man in the UFC who averages more than 5 significant strikes landed per minute. Not one.

This is interesting because it suggests that people who can keep a similar output to Max have the best chances of beating him. It's even more interesting when you consider the average significant strikes landed per minute of his next opponent, Calvin Kattar.

Kattar's average: 5.01 significant strikes landed per minute.


This fight is going to be a close one. I'm pumped.
 
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First of all, yes, I know, stats are just one of many tools to look at when breaking down fights and I'm wear they can be misleading. I'm not acting like this is the end all be all of breaking down fights, so don't get your panties in a bunch. Anyways, I was bored and looking at fight metric and I noticed that nearly every single fighter that beat Max Holloway had something in common—they all average 5 or more significant strikes landed per minute.

Conor averages: 5.43
Dustin averages: 5.57
Volk averages: 6.02

The lone exception is the very controversial decision to Bermudez. This isn't surprising, though, because Bermudez was primarily a wrestler. He averaged 4.52 significant strikes landed per minute.

After realizing this, I looked further and realized that Max Holloway has never beaten a single man in the UFC who averages more than 5 significant strikes per minute. Not one.

This is interesting because it suggests that people who can keep a similar output as Max can beat him. It's even more interesting when you consider the average significant strikes landed per minute of his next opponent, Calvin Kattar.

Kattar's average: 5.01 significant strikes landed per minute.


This fight is going to be a close one. I'm pumped.

Anyone see Max possibly retiring if he loses this?
 
how many has he fought who average over 5/minute?
 
how many has he fought who average over 5/minute?

Conor, Volkanovski twice, and Dustin twice. so, everyone he lost to. Like I said though, stats aren't the end all be all. He's fought guys with great output before and beaten them of course. It's just none of the guys he's beaten averaged 5 significant strikes or more landed per minute.
 
First of all, yes, I know, stats are just one of many tools to look at when breaking down fights and I'm aware that they can be misleading. I'm not acting like this is the end all be all of breaking down fights, so don't get your panties in a bunch. I'm just bored and looking at some stats. Anyways I was looking at fight metric and I noticed that nearly every single fighter that beat Max Holloway had something in common—they all average 5 or more significant strikes landed per minute.

Conor averages: 5.43
Dustin averages: 5.57
Volk averages: 6.02

The lone exception is the very controversial decision to Bermudez. This isn't surprising, though, because Bermudez was primarily a wrestler. He averaged 4.52 significant strikes landed per minute.

After realizing this, I looked further and realized that Max Holloway has never beaten a single man in the UFC who averages more than 5 significant strikes per minute. Not one.

This is interesting because it suggests that people who can keep a similar output to Max have the best chances of beating him. It's even more interesting when you consider the average significant strikes landed per minute of his next opponent, Calvin Kattar.

Kattar's average: 5.01 significant strikes landed per minute.


This fight is going to be a close one. I'm pumped.

Is it the same with Kattar?
 
Is it the same with Kattar?

No, but there's not as much data to draw from with Kattar. However, Kattar did beat the guy with the most significant strikes landed per minute in the division, Shane Burgos.

Burgo's averages: 7.31 significant strikes landed per minute.
 
I think this fight will be close and this stat really reflects it well. If Holloway loses he will be called washed up.
 
Wait, are those sig strike averages in the American or National League?
 
Max is a great fighter but I hope he has continued to evolve, that chin isn’t going to carry him forever.

I miss some of his submission finishes, and I hope he’s been working on his kicks, it certainly looked like it last fight.
 
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Relax. Max has plenty of ways to win this fight. I just found this interesting, that's all.

Your avatar just reminded me of this amazing fight:

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I'd love to see a comparison to some other high level fighters with that stat of significant strikes landed but I'm too lazy to check for myself.
 
stats are useless without context. And sometimes they don't reflect the reality at all.

According to fight metric, Diaz outstruck Conor in significant strikes in their second fight. but in reality, we all know that's bullshits. The majority of strikes that Diaz landed on Conor are not significant at all.
 
Anyone see Max possibly retiring if he loses this?
No unfortunately I feel like Max will be one of those fighters that will continue long after they should’ve retired. I hope I’m wrong though. Not saying Max needs to retire now though.
 
stats are useless without context. And sometimes they don't reflect the reality at all.

According to fight metric, Diaz outstruck Conor in significant strikes in their second fight. but in reality, we all know that's bullshits. The majority of strikes that Diaz landed on Conor are not significant at all.

Yes, as I've said, stats are just one tool to look at. No need to deconstruct the whole notion of "stats" as everyone already knows that they're fallible. I agree with you, btw, but I accept stats as the imperfect tool that they are. Definitely don't use only stats when contemplating fights, though—as you said, context is more important, along with other things.
 
stats are useless without context. And sometimes they don't reflect the reality at all.

According to fight metric, Diaz outstruck Conor in significant strikes in their second fight. but in reality, we all know that's bullshits. The majority of strikes that Diaz landed on Conor are not significant at all.
That's what OP says himself?
 
First of all, yes, I know, stats are just one of many tools to look at when breaking down fights and I'm aware that they can be misleading. I'm not acting like this is the end all be all of breaking down fights, so don't get your panties in a bunch. I'm just bored and looking at some stats. Anyways, I was looking at fight metric and I noticed that nearly every single fighter that beat Max Holloway had something in common—they all average 5 or more significant landed strikes landed per minute.

Conor averages: 5.43
Dustin averages: 5.57
Volk averages: 6.02

The lone exception is the very controversial decision to Bermudez. This isn't surprising, though, because Bermudez was primarily a wrestler. He averaged 4.52 significant strikes landed per minute.

After realizing this, I looked further and realized that Max Holloway has never beaten a single man in the UFC who averages more than 5 significant strikes landed per minute. Not one.

This is interesting because it suggests that people who can keep a similar output to Max have the best chances of beating him. It's even more interesting when you consider the average significant strikes landed per minute of his next opponent, Calvin Kattar.

Kattar's average: 5.01 significant strikes landed per minute.


This fight is going to be a close one. I'm pumped.
It's interesting for sure! Nice find
 
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