Infowars And Alex Jones Banned On Multiple Online Platforms

[Factory]

i wish the companies had left alex on there, because now his shit will become viewed as even more of a "forbidden truth" than it already was. so ironically, we'll probably see MORE instances of people harassing shooting victims and such.

maybe in the first week. But seen in the long term he will slowly disappear. It is impossible to grow without social services (Google, facebook, twitter...). They are definitely necessary if you want to share your political opinion.

 

[franklinstower]

How many people were against it? I'd say the entire internet, just about?

Yet, here we are.

Were you against it though, that is all I am asking about? Earlier in the thread many were crying censorship who also were in favor of ending neutrality and they did not see the irony of it. This fact once brought up shut many mouths.

 

[TheBlondBomber]

Please explain how you think that has anything to do with current laws and the first amendment. That was about collecting data. Was that the correct website you were wanting me to look at?

It doesn’t matter if relationship was about data collection and this is about the first amendment. Courts look at the aggregate of the relationship between the private entity and the government to determine if there is state action. The Brentwood Academy case focuses on the aggregate relationship as well. Subsidies aren’t enough, but if you have giant subsidies and other connections, there can be state action. But they don’t have to be linked to the cause of action

The Wilmington case found that there was state action in an equal protection case based on mutual benefit between the government and the parking authority through financial dependency with the restaurant. There doesn’t need to be a direct link between the relationship between the entities and the cause of action.

Go read the cases.

 

[all caps]

Were you against it though, that is all I am asking about? Earlier in the thread many were crying censorship who also were in favor of ending neutrality and they did not see the irony of it. This fact once brought up shut many mouths.

Where should I have gone to voice my displeasure? Who was I supposed to protest?

 

[franklinstower]

Where should I have gone to voice my displeasure? Who was I supposed to protest?

I see that you are avoiding answering the question. Fair enough-- you have that right.

 

[LMP]

It doesn’t matter if relationship was about data collection and this is about the first amendment.

The Wilmington case found that there was state action in an equal protection case based on mutual benefit between the government and the parking authority through financial dependency with the restaurant. There doesn’t need to be a direct link between the relationship between the entities and the cause of action.

Go read the case.

Link me to the case, not opinion pieces. Your link had no real information on the case verdict. Being as you are the one that wants to use that to support your argument, I expect you to find a good link. Yes I could do so myself, but want you to do it, since you brought it up, it is only fair.

 

[grimballer]

Regressives need safe space

Whats new?

 

[Omni1]

About a year and a half ago Matt Drudge (Drudge Report) made an appearance on the Alex Jones Show. It was absolutely bizarre, yet amazing. Bizarre because Matt Drudge has not appeared in public/camera in about a decade. Amazing because Drudge Report is the largest news outlet on the entire internet. He came on the show to warn Alex that the globalist combine wanted to ban all independent media & that the plan was to start with him. I genuinely feel concerned. Almost afraid. It's as if these NWO types want to start a revolution on American soil. If that ever happened it would be more violent than anything the world has ever witnessed. The type of guerrilla warfare that would take place would be horrific. Retired military patriots would start coming out of the wood work from everywhere. And once patriots get a taste for blood it would snowball & be impossible to stop.

Here is the interview.

 

[TheBlondBomber]

Sorry. I was just linking the mother jones article to show the link between the tech companies and the government.

Souter’s opinion in Brentwood is kind of all over the place but he talks about aggregation in B and C.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/99-901.ZO.html

Wilmington
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/365/715/

These are the entwinement cases

I’ll try to find an encouragement case.

 

[LMP]

Where should I have gone to voice my displeasure? Who was I supposed to protest?

Twitter's HQ in San Francisco?

 

[all caps]

Twitter's HQ in San Francisco?

For... net neutrality?

 

[LMP]

@sniper
Outside the FCC in Washington DC.

 

[luckyshot]

But how is this?

According to POtuS dRumpf, Slex Jones has an “incredible reputation.”

The Sandy Hook shit was 6 years ago, why now?

He is currently in court being sued by families with murdered children who have had to deal with years of harassment from his followers.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

Lol @ butthurt conservatives here being upset with corporations doing what they want. You can't claim to be conservative while subtly hinting that companies shouldn't be allowed to do this

Conservatism is comprised of a very diverse group of thinkers from Godless, hardcore free-market neo-liberals to hedonistic libertarians to socially conservative Christians to traditionalist agrarians who are strongly critical of capitalism, big-business and neo-liberalism to retard hillbillies shooting guns, swilling beer and waving the flag. There is not a one-size fits all conservatism where everyone thinks exactly the same thing.

 

[TheBlondBomber]

Link me to the case, not opinion pieces. Your link had no real information on the case verdict. Being as you are the one that wants to use that to support your argument, I expect you to find a good link. Yes I could do so myself, but want you to do it, since you brought it up, it is only fair.

“It would seem that we now have only to cull a clearcut definition of state action from relevant decisions dealing with this particular concept of state action. However, the Supreme Court’s studied avoidance of any definitive state action formula can hardly be gainsaid. The Court admits to extreme difficulty in articulating an all-inclusive test and seems to emphasize that, within the confines of certain guidelines, the presence or absence of state action must be determined on a case-by-case basis.” - Magill v. Avonworth Baseball Conf., 516 F.2d 1328, 1332 (3d Cir. 1975)

 

[LMP]

“It would seem that we now have only to cull a clearcut definition of state action from relevant decisions dealing with this particular concept of state action. However, the Supreme Court’s studied avoidance of any definitive state action formula can hardly be gainsaid. The Court admits to extreme difficulty in articulating an all-inclusive test and seems to emphasize that, within the confines of certain guidelines, the presence or absence of state action must be determined on a case-by-case basis.” - Magill v. Avonworth Baseball Conf., 516 F.2d 1328, 1332 (3d Cir. 1975)

And you believe that this is enough to state that banning Alex Jones is a state action? The government would have had to tell the social media outlets to do so. I highly doubt anyone could make a connection. If the government did state they had to ban people then absolutely that would be a first amendment violation. I don't think to many people would claim other wise. I don't believe the government told them to ban him. If they took the action based solely on the belief that he had violate their terms of use, then this absolutely is not a first amendment issue.

 

[AndroidRage]

About a year and a half ago Matt Drudge (Drudge Report) made an appearance on the Alex Jones Show. It was absolutely bizarre, yet amazing. Bizarre because Matt Drudge has not appeared in public/camera in about a decade. Amazing because Drudge Report is the largest news outlet on the entire internet. He came on the show to warn Alex that the globalist combine wanted to ban all independent media & that the plan was to start with him. I genuinely feel concerned. Almost afraid. It's as if these NWO types want to start a revolution on American soil. If that ever happened it would be more violent than anything the world has ever witnessed. The type of guerrilla warfare that would take place would be horrific. Retired military patriots would start coming out of the wood work from everywhere. And once patriots get a taste for blood it would snowball & be impossible to stop.

Here is the interview.

Sounds like a Info warz watching Trumptards wet dream.

 

[all caps]

About a year and a half ago Matt Drudge (Drudge Report) made an appearance on the Alex Jones Show. It was absolutely bizarre, yet amazing. Bizarre because Matt Drudge has not appeared in public/camera in about a decade. Amazing because Drudge Report is the largest news outlet on the entire internet. He came on the show to warn Alex that the globalist combine wanted to ban all independent media & that the plan was to start with him. I genuinely feel concerned. Almost afraid. It's as if these NWO types want to start a revolution on American soil. If that ever happened it would be more violent than anything the world has ever witnessed. The type of guerrilla warfare that would take place would be horrific. Retired military patriots would start coming out of the wood work from everywhere. And once patriots get a taste for blood it would snowball & be impossible to stop.

Here is the interview.

I.... actually dont want to watch that. Kind of giving me goose pimples

 

[TheBlondBomber]

And you believe that this is enough to state that banning Alex Jones is a state action? The government would have had to tell the social media outlets to do so. I highly doubt anyone could make a connection. If the government did state they had to ban people then absolutely that would be a first amendment violation. I don't think to many people would claim other wise. I don't believe the government told them to ban him. If they took the action based solely on the belief that he had violate their terms of use, then this absolutely is not a first amendment issue.

I think the government and big tech are definitely in bed together. I know there was a push by people in our government to stamp out fake news on the internet. I know that big tech gets large subsidies from the government. I know google performs government functions with the military. I know they benefit from each other through the sharing of data. There’s significant entwinement and a degree of affirmative encouragement by government officials for shutting down people like Jones. That’s for the court to decide and as you saw from the cases, their analysis in this is all over the place.

Also, I should say that the Lugar case says that the action by the government has to be related to the cause of action. But Souter kind of contradicts that.

 

[LMP]

I think the government and big tech are definitely in bed together. I know there was a push by people in our government to stamp out fake news on the internet. I know that big tech gets large subsidies from the government. I know google performs government functions with the military. I know they benefit from each other through the sharing of data. There’s significant entwinement and a degree of affirmative encouragement by government officials for shutting down people like Jones. That’s for the court to decide and as you saw from the cases, their analysis in this is all over the place.

Also, I should say that the Lugar case says that the action by the government has to be related to the cause of action. But Souter kind of contradicts that.

This is kinda were you go wrong with the idea that this is a first amendment issue imo. We have to assume that this is a government attack against Jones.

There is more than enough evidence to show that Jones is a douchebag. He has written his own ticket to this path. I'm definitely no lawyer, I'm just a simple minded electrician. The simplest explanation is that these social outlets have had enough of this crazy asshole. He isn't a journalist, he is a fraud and has had to admit that in court repeatedly.

Sure if you are one of his followers, the whole deep state is working to silence him will make sense, because they are already crazy for not seeing through his bullshit.

So, you think this is a deep state operation against Alex Jones? I won't deny that our government has done shady crap in the past, and it will do shady crap in the future. There just isn't the need to do it with this fake news journalist.