India Cancels $12B Combat Jet Program

Surely they will make the decision with the next program, surely!
 
They bought 36 jets instead of 126 from France, sort of a consolation prize for the French for cancelling the contract. This is how procurement in India goes. The government makes a deal and politicians/military officers get kickbacks from the manufacturer. The opposition then find every little problem they can to delay the deal, until the next election cycle. If the opposition wins the election, then they scrap whatever deal that was made before and begin again, so it would be their turn for kickbacks. The cycle keeps repeating, and Indian military end up not getting anything new for years.
 
Orgasmo said:
They bought 36 jets instead of 126 from France, sort of a consolation prize for the French for cancelling the contract. This is how procurement in India goes. The government makes a deal and politicians/military officers get kickbacks from the manufacturer. The opposition then find every little problem they can to delay the deal, until the next election cycle. If the opposition wins the election, then they scrap whatever deal that was made before and begin again, so it would be their turn for kickbacks. The cycle keeps repeating, and Indian military end up not getting anything new for years.
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So they are still getting 36? what about the other aircraft? i wounder if they're go with the Gripen..
 
lol 12 billion. Could you even buy a single F-35 for that?
 
Better planes for cheaper. France really helped them (and Russia) out with that one
 
Americas fault really. France loses out once again because they're Americas bicth.

They made France cancel the huge aircraft carrier sale to Russia costing them well over a billion.
So India decided they weren't reliable enough and said they would not buy their jets off France.
 
NaziHunta said:
Americas fault really. France loses out once again because they're Americas bicth.

They made France cancel the huge aircraft carrier sale to Russia costing them well over a billion.
So India decided they weren't reliable enough and said they would not buy their jets off France.
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what the hell does the US have to do with the Dassault Rafale. They aren't gonna buy F-35s. We pitched that already, they said no. we also pitched the F-16block 70 and the F/a-18 IN. They said no..
 
GhostZ06 said:
what the hell does the US have to do with the Dassault Rafale. They aren't gonna buy F-35s. We pitched that already, they said no. we also pitched the F-16block 70 and the F/a-18 IN. They said no..
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France wanted to sell a $1.3b aircraft carrier to Russia. America told them no and to fall in line, hitting Russia with sanctions blaming them for MH17. India decides because of this that France weren't a stable source for supplying their military and started negotiations with Russia.

http://russia-insider.com/en/washin...s-french-arms-industry-sukhoi-flies-high/5690
 
NaziHunta said:
France wanted to sell a $1.3b aircraft carrier to Russia. America told them no and to fall in line, hitting Russia with sanctions blaming them for MH17. India decides because of this that France weren't a stable source for supplying their military and started negotiations with Russia.

http://russia-insider.com/en/washin...s-french-arms-industry-sukhoi-flies-high/5690
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eh i don't know about that, the way i see it, i dont think that would flatten the deal. Is this a Russian news source?


i bet they'll go with the gripen.
 
Yeah it's Russian but they seem to be more on the ball (and more directly involved) as it was from mid April, almost 4 months ago, announcing the same cancellation of the French/Indian deal.
This American source is "breaking news" from 2 days ago
 
NaziHunta said:
Yeah it's Russian but they seem to be more on the ball (and more directly involved) as it was from mid April, almost 4 months ago, announcing the same cancellation of the French/Indian deal.
This American source is "breaking news" from 2 days ago
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Lol, I thought this story sounded familiar.
The French seem to be dealing with a lot of fallout from those idiot sanctions.

Those farmer protests/riots of theirs have been pretty crazy.
 
NaziHunta said:
Yeah it's Russian but they seem to be more on the ball (and more directly involved) as it was from mid April, almost 4 months ago, announcing the same cancellation of the French/Indian deal.
This American source is "breaking news" from 2 days ago
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There's plenty of news from back in March-April about the deal going south and the OP's source also reported them reducing the number to 36 back in April.

Focusing on the cancellation of the Mistral deal was part of Russia's bid to sell the Sukhoi 30s, that doesn't mean it was the primary reason the Rafael deal collapsed. ...all part of the propaganda.

The latch-on was instantaneous. Hours after Parrikar's comments were broadcast, Russian think-tank the Center for Analysis of World Arms Trade declared on Jan 13 that India's potential choice of more Russian Su-30 MKIs instead of Rafales would be "advantageous to the country’s air force in terms of cost, tactical and technical characteristics of the plane and a series of other reasons". For good measure, the Russians stoked France's controversial hold-back of Mistral-class amphibious ships intended for Russia. The example had been broached before, but Moscow really ground it in this time.
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I welcome our new putinist for what I expect to be a rather brief stay.
 
A new Kremlin troll appeared!
 
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