In which fights Jones was on PEDs in your opinion?

[Gregoire1]

Few questions about Jones, his legacy and PEDs:
1.What do you think: If Jones was on PEDs all his career? Or from what fight he was juiced?

2. If you think he used, then did PEDs help him honestly: would he beat all these guys without it? Especially Gus, DC, Glover, Gane, Reyes?

3. What do you think about other fighters: if all of them used PEDs? Most interesting cases: Cain, DC, Khabib, GSP, Fedor - what do you think: each of them were on PEDs or not?


Honestly, I think all of them are on some PEDs (elite fighters, especially from previous Olympic disciplines for sure), but in we take Jones: after all problems with USADA, his late LHW "run of close decisions" maybe was due to lack of "juice"+motivation?

 

[Marko Polo]

Every single fight apart from OSP

 

[TheBulge]

A Jones without PEDS still beats all of those opponents even if they were on PEDS.

 

[OldBoy91]

Much easier to write a list of fights where he wasn't.

It would be a lot shorter.

 

[LeBron]

What makes you think “most of them are on PEDs”? Not everyone is a cheating POS like Jones.

 

[mjoln]

They all use.

 

[deanambrose]

A Jones without PEDS still beats all of those opponents even if they were on PEDS.

They all use.

Yes, yes. What a retarded take.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

All of them.

Back when drug tests were only immediately before and after fights, why wouldn't fighters use? It was an IQ test more than anything else, and guaranteed weeks of unobstructed cycling. USADA didn't eliminate doping, just changed how it was done and who could do it.

 

[TheBulge]

What makes you think “most of them are on PEDs”? Not everyone is a cheating POS like Jones.

No, but most of them are. And all it takes is most of them.

 

[Gabe]

Yes

 

[J'Ghasta]

Pretty sure he was natty against Stephan Bonnar and Andre Gusmao and the rest of those early fights. Jones then looked very human. Got tired and could be hurt. Not the terminator he is now. Total speculation but I think he hopped on around the 2011/2012 timeframe when he made it to the big time and got to a big camp.

 

[tritestill]

This should be another well thought out and mature discussion.

 

[Snake Fist]

No question he was on them when his tests where showing ridiculously low levels of testosterone, and probably well before his brother got suspended for doping.

 

[Fedorgasm]

Every single fight apart from OSP

Agreed.

My av tells the rest of the story.

 

[p4pfighters]

Gusmao, Bonnar and OSP , those fights he fought clean, he didn't look like a world beater and looked even vulnerable at times against inferior fighters.

 

[LeBron]

No, but most of them are. And all it takes is most of them.

Prove it

 

[Sweater of AV]

*In which fights Jones wasn't on PEDs in your opinion?​

That would make things easier. Here's the list:

 

[GluttonforPunishment]

I can tell most sherdoggers have never competed in anything other than keyboard or meme Olympics. He likely was on something every fight, which a lot of retired fighters say everyone was on something. He had stinkers but he saved his energy for the big fights. No need in going all out on an osp, a Reyes, or the scrubs before the title. His performances are based on winners mentality. No insecure sherdog chuds. Keep hating

 

[Bouboumaster]

A Jones without PEDS still beats all of those opponents even if they were on PEDS.

We'll never know

 

[Goatenstein]

The same amount of fights Anderson Silva was on PEDs for.