In hindsight, Silva’s performance vs Adesanya is impressive

[cburm]

Silva is to big for gsp .. So are most 185ers firas knows this.. Thats why gsp ducked silva is whole career hed always say hes not ready to fight anderson hes not ready to go up.. He doesnt think hes good enough yet.. Gsp game plan was to hopefully wait til anderson got old and slow and he could have a better chance but weidmen stepped in and stole it from him. Gsp is a coward and he was the most. Boring and hated champion in the UFC people wouldnt watch or buy cards if he was headlining it.. He coined the term lay n pray. He turned his back and sprinted away when he faught nate.. And people laughed you new he was watchin the clock he would take you down and pray for the round to end.

Its amazing how people forget.
But then again its mostly casuals and guys who watch highlight reels on here.

 

[joshy]

he trolled isral imo

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Do people actually think a professional fighter would take it easy on his opponent? LOL

Yes it's plausible. Just because your professional at something doesn't mean you can't be affected by emotion or adoration for someone.

 

[thobra]

Except I'm using facts.

Anderson was taken down by all the fighters I named and plenty of others. His TDD ratio was inflated by guys like Leites and Maia who spent entire fights crawling on the mat. Those are irrelevant when it comes to DC, who's a bigger and far better wrestler.

Here's a better statisctic: In his 16 win streak in the UFC, Anderson was taken down by half of his opponents.
What makes you think DC wouldn't put him on his back whenever he wanted?

Nobody is saying DC can’t take Anderson down, but Anderson is not easy to take down unless DC exposes himself. We do know that DC is not a dangerous opponent even for a past prime Anderson. We do know that DC is pretty easy to hit, slow, And likes to move forward, And is a tailor made opponent for a counterstriker like Anderson. Sure, DCs biggest strength is normally his size, but in this case it is a disadvantage.

His tdd means a lot, because DC can not just dive in. He needs to set it up, And we know how that normally goes in Andersons prime (vs much faster, roided up opponents than DC).

 

[youngsteinel]

The Silva that beat Hendo would finish Whittaker and Izzy inside two rounds

Gsp ducked Whittaker while Silva fought the current champ at age 44. Don’t be a fool

The Silva that fought Hendo was on PEDs. In this day and age of strict testing, Izzy would have beaten him. I see Anderson fans are still delusional.

 

[CrocopHKtotheballs]

Lol, Silva is a glorified Chuck Liddle.

 

[youngsteinel]

Gsp is a coward and he was the most. Boring and hated champion in the UFC people wouldnt watch or buy cards if he was headlining it.

Are you serious?

 

[Bork Neslar]

Gsp game plan was to hopefully wait til anderson got old and slow and he could have a better chance but weidmen stepped in and stole it from him. Gsp is a coward and he was the most. Boring and hated champion in the UFC people wouldnt watch or buy cards if he was headlining it.. He coined the term lay n pray. He turned his back and sprinted away when he faught nate.. And people laughed you new he was watchin the clock he would take you down and pray for the round to end.

You're absolutely right.

 

[Claude]

Nobody is saying DC can’t take Anderson down, but Anderson is not easy to take down unless DC exposes himself. We do know that DC is not a dangerous opponent even for a past prime Anderson. We do know that DC is pretty easy to hit, slow, And likes to move forward, And is a tailor made opponent for a counterstriker like Anderson. Sure, DCs biggest strength is normally his size, but in this case it is a disadvantage.

His tdd means a lot, because DC can not just dive in. He needs to set it up, And we know how that normally goes in Andersons prime (vs much faster, roided up opponents than DC).

Not at all.

Plenty of fighters took Anderson down without any kind of set up. Daiju Takase was shooting from a mile a way without any setup and succeeded. Sonnen teleraphed plenty of his TD's in the first fight.

Also, while DC's striking defense is indeed pretty sloppy, he's still pretty tough and durable. He can eat punches from big LHW's and HW's and keep fighting. Anderson simply wouldn't be able to KO him before DC could get a hold of him. All DC would need to do is get Anderson in the clinch and and go for an upper body takedown, which wasn't a hard thing to do. Look at his fight vs. Horn.

If you followed Anderson's career you should know that he was harder to take down later in his career. Around the time he rematched Sonnen and fought Weidman. The version of Anderson who fought DC was a lot harder to take down than the Pride / CageRage / early UFC Anderson, and DC still took him down at will.​

 

[Regal Boy]

Anderson went easy on him, kinda like WWE when the old school wrestler passes the torch to the up and comer. Nothing else to say/thread

Except it was literally the opposite, Adesanya went easy on Silva because he didn't want to knock out the old champ and his hero.

 

[thobra]

Not at all.

Plenty of fighters took Anderson down without any kind of set up. Daiju Takase was shooting from a mile a way without any setup and succeeded. Sonnen teleraphed plenty of his TD's in the first fight.

Also, while DC's striking defense is indeed pretty sloppy, he's still pretty tough and durable. He can eat punches from big LHW's and HW's and keep fighting. Anderson simply wouldn't be able to KO him before DC could get a hold of him. All DC would need to do is get Anderson in the clinch and and go for an upper body takedown, which wasn't a hard thing to do. Look at his fight vs. Horn.

If you followed Anderson's career you should know that he was harder to take down later in his career. Around the time he rematched Sonnen and fought Weidman. The version of Anderson who fought DC was a lot harder to take down than the Pride / CageRage / early UFC Anderson, and DC still took him down at will.​

Sure, DC is durable, but his style is tailor made for Anderson. Now you Are not considering statistics again Sure, there might be examples of him being taken down with bad set ups, just like there Are examples of top strikers being caught, but there is no doubt Anderson had some of the highest tdd% in all of mma early/mid career. That obviously declined with age, but I agree he still has decent tdd.

 

[yookfarb]

Sure, DC is durable, but his style is tailor made for Anderson. Now you Are not considering statistics again Sure, there might be examples of him being taken down with bad set ups, just like there Are examples of top strikers being caught, but there is no doubt Anderson had some of the highest tdd% in all of mma early/mid career. That obviously declined with age, but I agree he still has decent tdd.

yeah and DC has something pitiful like a 25% takedown success rate... yet went 3/3 against Anderson

statistics in MMA need context and you are beyond delusional if you think Anderson had some of the best TDD in MMA history

 

[thobra]

yeah and DC has something pitiful like a 25% takedown success rate... yet went 3/3 against Anderson

statistics in MMA need context and you are beyond delusional if you think Anderson had some of the best TDD in MMA history

A full camp DC vs an untrained Anderson on 10 days notice, coming straight off the couch. That needs context..

What context are you talking about in Andersons tdd %?

 

[yookfarb]

A full camp DC vs an untrained Anderson on 10 days notice, coming straight off the couch. That needs context..

What context are you talking about in Andersons tdd %?

Yeah and 90% of the "fight" was Anderson desperately squirming underneath DCs belly while DC hit him with little love taps and coasted to a decision. Then he gave your boy a kiss and waxed poetically about how he didn't want to do that to a legend...

DC total strikes outlanded 5-1... 3/3 takedowns... 3 guard passes...

Anderson Silva had been taken down at least once by every single d1 rassler he ever fought in the UFC. And inflated his tdd% with Demian Maias 13 pathetic takedown attempts

 

[Claude]

Sure, DC is durable, but his style is tailor made for Anderson. Now you Are not considering statistics again Sure, there might be examples of him being taken down with bad set ups, just like there Are examples of top strikers being caught, but there is no doubt Anderson had some of the highest tdd% in all of mma early/mid career. That obviously declined with age, but I agree he still has decent tdd.

The only relevant statistic would be Anderson's TDD against wrestlers, unless you think stuffing TD's from guys like Maia and Leites translates into defending TD's from DC. We know he got taken down by Hendo, Sonnen and Weidman, both smaller and less decorated than DC.

On the other hand Anderson getting taken down by non wrestlers does indeed help DC's case.

 

[thobra]

Yeah and 90% of the "fight" was Anderson desperately squirming underneath DCs belly while DC hit him with little love taps and coasted to a decision. Then he gave your boy a kiss and waxed poetically about how he didn't want to do that to a legend...

DC total strikes outlanded 5-1... 3/3 takedowns... 3 guard passes...

Anderson Silva had been taken down at least once by every single d1 rassler he ever fought in the UFC. And inflated his tdd% with Demian Maias 13 pathetic takedown attempts

Andersons legendary tdd% was before Maia, but to be fair, Maia in his prime had scary TDS, And a past prime Anderson made him look foolish.

Being taken down a few times by a d1 wrestler does not mean bad tdd. Plenty of time to ko a wrestler in 5 rds.

Plenty of others would probably do the same as DC did to an untrained Anderson. What is so special is that even 40 lbs heavier, top trained 3 Month fight camp DC couldn’t do anything, except «lay there».
I have no doubt a prime Anderson beats DC. Bad defence, slow, pretty sloppy And 3 rd cardio vs the most accurate mw in history, with probably the greatest hand power in the division.

 

[thobra]

The only relevant statistic would be Anderson's TDD against wrestlers, unless you think stuffing TD's from guys like Maia and Leites translates into defending TD's from DC. We know he got taken down by Hendo, Sonnen and Weidman, both smaller and less decorated than DC.

On the other hand Anderson getting taken down by non wrestlers does indeed help DC's case.

Dear god... of course guys Are taken down sometimes... Does that mean only guys that have a wrestling background from Hs? Or college? Or guys that train wrestling in mma? I hope you Are trying to be funny? I think we Are done, son...

 

[Claude]

Dear god... of course guys Are taken down sometimes... Does that mean only guys that have a wrestling background from Hs? Or college? Or guys that train wrestling in mma? I hope you Are trying to be funny? I think we Are done, son...

Anderson wasn't taken down sometimes, he was taken down very often, by non wrestlers.

Him stuffing TD's from DC is simply a fanboy fantasy.

 

[Sean0]

44 year old Anderson Silva won a round vs the current UFC MW champ 29 year old Israel Adesanya in a competitive fight.

Prime 28 year Whittaker was KOd brutally by Israel in 2 rounds.
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Felt like Anderson took the 3rd round off too.

 

[heavyarms21]

Reminds me of the Cormier fight. People said Cormier went easy on him out of respect that's why he didn't finish him. Hilarious. Going into the fight I was sure Israel would finish Anderson or at least give him a beating but it ended up being a tough fight despite Anderson's age. Before the fight I was curious who would win a fight between both fighters in their prime but all that fight really showed us is Anderson would have made it look easy.

Cormier looked worried in exchanges.