I'm fighting in a boxing match for charity

[mac11]

I'm 30, no formal training except I've been hitting a bag for years.
I will undergo 8 weeks training before the opponent is scheduled.

I have a question, might be a stupid one. These white collar boxing matches have been uploaded to youtube.
The idiots come out swinging wildly for the fences. There is headgear so KO's are probably non-existant as a possibility.

How would you deal with a guy that comes out like a raging bull swinging wildly? Tips in order to win?

cheers

edit: i mean KOs in white collar boxing with headgear seem rare

 

[n.diazismylife1999]

Hard, straight punches. Until they don't want to swing at you wildly anymore. Then you go on the offense.

 

[PivotPunch]

I never wore headgear but from what just about everyone says it won't protect you a lot from ko's so don't think nothing can happen. Punches do hurt and they are scary if they are thrown at you, you could wear a headgear and 20oz gloves and Pauli malignaggi could be your opponent and it still would hurt to get hit especially if you have no experience and are tired.

Don't assume that you will take the punches like nothing and be fine maybe you are naturally tough both physically and mentally but dont expect it to be that way as you could be in for a bad awakening in sparring which is bad for your confidence or even worse in the actual fight which is bad for everything.

Obviously get a trainer or even somehow who can box and traisn you. Do obviously light sparring as you ahve 8 weeks it will have to be a crash course.

Do a ton of cardio do a lot of drills, and do a lot of sparring for the sake of your health obviously light sparring with your trainer or somehow who will spar to make you better and knows how far he can push you without hitting you too hard.

If you have to clinch with the guy if he comes out swinging ndo it, dont give a fuck about making it a pretty and textbook boxing match .
And let him power himself out the adrenaline dumb will probably kill both of you but try to make it so that its even worse for him and get him to tire himself out if he is really as bad as you hope he will be then he will be done after literally the first minute or at least at 50%.

Also keep the punches somewhat proper as even just throwing a hard straight instead of a wild hayemaker will make a difference in exchanges.

Keep it simple but do it properly. Also you shouldn't assume that the other guy is a total bum and fights like the worst you see on YT, maybe he is the same as you and will train porperly or worst case scenario is that he has actual boxing experience.

Train for the best opponent and hope for the worst one.

 

[killedsirius]

female boxers can still wear headgear, you can get KOd plenty with headgear, it's still scary. Don't go back wards in a straight line if someone is swinging wildly, Work on sidestepping and tunring your opponent. Straight punches, hands up and elbows in.

 

[Art of War]

Terrible idea honestly. If you want to give to charity, just give them money. You can definitely get fucked up, disfigured nose for life, and KO'd with headgear on.

 

[IrishWarMachinex]

Simple advice, work the jab, if the close the distance, duck, clinch and turn them, push off and repeat, but as siad before, always work the straight punches. Also, try getting on the inside and working the body, if they can't get leverage on their big swings, then they have literally zero offence, put the head on their shoulder, make sure your body is seperated from theirs, and use the tried and true Mexican boxing style of constant uppercuts to the body

 

[IrishWarMachinex]

 

[IrishWarMachinex]

If you get a guy who has his hands up and presses constantly against you to smother your work, just pivot away with footwork, the check hook is a good example

MMA fighters have been trying this recently



always remember your opponent has to reset his feet if you pivot off and change the angles

 

[IrishWarMachinex]

To sum up, Always be at your own optimum range, if you feel uncomfortable working him at range, get close, if you feel uncomfortable (if he's a very strong guy for example) up close, try working straight punches and pivoting with hooks from range, and then mix them up to confuse him, never just stand in one spot and give HIM the opportunity to do what he wants

 

[IrishWarMachinex]

"If you have to clinch with the guy if he comes out swinging ndo it, dont give a fuck about making it a pretty and textbook boxing match .
And let him power himself out the adrenaline dumb will probably kill both of you but try to make it so that its even worse for him and get him to tire himself out if he is really as bad as you hope he will be then he will be done after literally the first minute or at least at 50%."

Indeed, well said, don't try to fight "an exciting fight" clinch, move, pivot, make it ugly, do whatever you can to optimise your chance at landing on the guy and lessen his chances of taking your head off with a haymaker

 

[Straightcross]

That's what everyone does who has their first boxing match, those are always slugfests.

So have your first match before the charity one or have match style sparring sessions

 

[mac11]

Terrible idea honestly. If you want to give to charity, just give them money. You can definitely get fucked up, disfigured nose for life, and KO'd with headgear on.

Too late, nose already broken. I agree you can get KO'd with headgear. I watched a white collar boxing match on youtube where there was a KO in the first. The guy looked really good so I think what goes on in these sometimes is that trained boxers sign up pretending they are novices. It's a question on the form when applying. The guy at the interview said, don't worry, it's easy to find this out. He's a big name in our local boxing community.

I want to fight, giving to charity is a bonus.

So have your first match before the charity one or have match style sparring sessions

There will be 8 weeks of strength & conditioning, and sparring sessions before the bout. If I'm selected as there were many applicants, we will be matched as evenly as possible he says.


It's 3 rounds at 1 and half minutes per.

 

[Art of War]

Too late, nose already broken. I agree you can get KO'd with headgear. I watched a white collar boxing match on youtube where there was a KO in the first. The guy looked really good so I think what goes on in these sometimes is that trained boxers sign up pretending they are novices. It's a question on the form when applying. The guy at the interview said, don't worry, it's easy to find this out. He's a big name in our local boxing community.

I want to fight, giving to charity is a bonus.



There will be 8 weeks of strength & conditioning, and sparring sessions before the bout. If I'm selected as there were many applicants, we will be matched as evenly as possible he says.


It's 3 rounds at 1 and half minutes per.

I know you think you're tough, but there are some tough motherfuckers out there that fight because that's what they want to do with their lif. If you're asking this question, I don't think you belong in a ring personally. But to each his own.

 

[mac11]

I know you think you're tough, but there are some tough motherfuckers out there that fight because that's what they want to do with their lif. If you're asking this question, I don't think you belong in a ring personally. But to each his own.

This is a white collar boxing event, where novices fight novices. I'm asking questions because I've no formal training. Your logic is flawed everyhwere.

If I lose I lose, I've been in numerous street fights much tougher than this. I haven;t hinted that this would be easy either.

 

[Art of War]

This is a white collar boxing event, where novices fight novices. I'm asking questions because I've no formal training. Your logic is flawed everywhere.

If I lose I lose, I've been in numerous street fights much tougher than this. I haven;t hinted that this would be easy either.

I'm saying that me and my teammates would participate in something like that and would have no trouble really hurting somebody without experience. Street fights don't count lol. People don't know how to fight 99 percent of the time. It sounds like you've made up your mind though. Have fun, good luck.

No advice is going to help you unless you have the time to make them instinctive.

 

[mac11]

That's what I'm saying I'm not fighting against trained fighters bro.
But advice is helpful to me.
I'm watching JT Van V videos on youtube a learned a ton of theory in a day. Just applying it now on the bag

 

[j123]

That's what I'm saying I'm not fighting against trained fighters bro.
But advice is helpful to me.
I'm watching JT Van V videos on youtube a learned a ton of theory in a day. Just applying it now on the bag

Hope you'll have a good team in your corner.

Remember to breathe properly. When you exhale on every strike, but don't inhale in, you will gas. I've said this in another thread before, even if you have the best VO2 max in world, and you'll still gas if you don't breathe properly.
Also, with the 1min break in between the rounds, thats the time to slow your breathing and recover (doing your best to reduce your heart rate -- which is probably around 180 bpm after the first round). If you don't, you've wasted 1min doing nothing while your opponent has been working to recover. I'd say you could recover about 60-70% of your tank during the break.

Even though its a "charity" match / exhibition, expect the pace and power to feel like a real fight. Especially if you and your opponent are both inexperienced.

Everyone gasses in their first fight / exhibition, especially if they're not used to being in a similar situation. The pressure all adds up (crowd, being in an enclosed space with an opponent with similar capabilities as yourself, nerves, adrenaline, etc). Its best to keep it to a minimum though.

Headgear is to protect mainly from bruises and cuts. There was a study done that its actually detrimental as it can cause minor whiplash (headgear weight on your head, rocking back and forth from strikes)

Anyways,
Best of luck

 

[mac11]

Hope you'll have a good team in your corner.

Yes, he's well known trainer in my town. Sparring starts 4 weeks in. He says he wants to prepare us for 3 min rounds though the rounds are 1.5 minutes.

Remember to breathe properly. When you exhale on every strike, but don't inhale in, you will gas. I've said this in another thread before, even if you have the best VO2 max in world, and you'll still gas if you don't breathe properly.

i learned yesterday about exhaling on a strike, but naturally you would inhale after exhaling right..

Everyone gasses in their first fight / exhibition, especially if they're not used to being in a similar situation. The pressure all adds up (crowd, being in an enclosed space with an opponent with similar capabilities as yourself, nerves, adrenaline, etc). Its best to keep it to a minimum though.

..
Good tip...i didn't think beyond energy in the ring ...

 

[j123]

i learned yesterday about exhaling on a strike, but naturally you would inhale after exhaling right..

On paper yes, but in a fight the scenario might end up:
You may throw a combination of say 1,2,3,2 exhaling each strike. Before you can breathe in, your opponent presses forward with his combinations and most are heavy punches. You defend and forget to breathe while blocking or evading. Most of the time, newer guys breathe in when out of harms way. More experienced guys can stay calm and inhale when defending, and probably in the clinch as well.

Do your best to try to minimize this, and practice it in sparring as well.

 

[Art of War]

"Sparring starts 4 weeks in", how long do you have to train? 4 weeks is pretty good. If you have that long you can definitely get some good habits.

1. jump rope everyday until the fight - 10+ minutes
2. shadowbox everyday until the fight - 10+ minutes
3. spar at least twice a week until a week before the fight. (some will disagree with this but I personally like to spar a lot,
especially if you don't have a lot of experience, this will keep you from turning away, closing your eyes, and tensing up. Make sure you have a good basic cover up defense. That's number 1.)
4. KEEP IT SIMPLE, better to master a few simple things that try to half ass a lot of things.
5. SEE ABOVE simple stuff that's important (pick a few of these to throw many times a day to engrain in muscle memory)
a. Jab
b. Jab Cross
c. Jab Cross Hook
d. Jab Cross Uppercut
e. Jab Jab Cross
f. Jab(head) Jab(head), rear hook body
g. Jab(head) Cross(head), lead hook body
That should give you plenty to get good at.
6. did I mention shadowboxing? concentrate on moving in all directions, pivoting, and secondarily, throwing the punches.
7. oh also, shadowboxing. and jump rope.

Bonus tip : on fight day, take it as no big deal. trust your training, treat it like sparring, just don't pull your punches and don't stop when you've hurt him. Gassing out is mostly from being tense, not because you have no cardio.