I'm confused. Which is it?

[Joseph_McBride]

Its funny guys like Hendricks & Vitor fall off under usada & its; "Fighters can't win without their PEDs."

Jones gets busted multiple times & its; "Oh he was/is just as great w/out PEDs."

So PEDs help or they don't? We can't have it both ways. Imo, it doesn't take much common sense to understand that PEDs help a lot or fighters wouldn't use them.

 

[Jawth]

Fuck Jon.

He probably is GOAT but hope he gets at least two years, preferably more.

One cannot look at how Vitor performed on and off PEDs (though I think Belfort was on anything and everything he could get his hands on and masking it with TRT) and say they didn't help him ko people with headkicks. Its ridiculous.

Likewise, it is extraordinarily suspect for Johny to go from whooping GSP's ass to not being able to beat Magny in such a short amount of time, and right when USADA came in too. Maybe lazyiness and shit camps contributed, but it is at the very least eyebrow raising.